I don't want to be mean about it but blows my mind that some progressives are so single-minded about protecting menial dead end jobs from automation. this is literally equivalent to the "if you get rid of slavery how are slaves going to eat and take care of themselves" argument from the 1800s.
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3@sun I'm not in progressive circles but i haven't seen them fighting for menial jobs at all but advocating for effective safety nets and cracking down on the overt corruption. Ironically it seems that UBI is the likely compromise between Progressives and power.
An exception would probably be customer service because people would much rather talk to an underpaid offshore human than an opaque and obtuse chatbot.
The Pope's encyclical talked about this, arguing that unions aren't enough to safeguard people in current times.
I feel the same way about UBI, it seems possibly economically haunted though, but something has to be done in the near term.
@sun the weird thing is that I do see the right doing the same dance you describe, just from a different angle.
They don't understand how inflation and the cost of living rising has effectively priced people out of human labor outside of highly profitable (and often anti-social) rackets.
This segment of the right wants the young and the non-rich to effectively eat the (financial and social) costs associated with all of the above and thank them for the opportunity to build character.
I've been thinking for a while that the next big "culture war flashpoint" is going to be old vs young.
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