The more you look at it the worse it gets.
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@mhoye if only someone would have warned against having every software hard depending on systemd for questionable functional gains.
I think in retrospect, it should be obvious that it was a power-grab.
And the distros which accepted it are no longer in control of what they release. But the beautiful thing about open source is it's an ecosystem, so some distros can make dumb decisions and die, while others make smart decisions and thrive.
And the distros which accepted it are no longer in control of what they release. But the beautiful thing about open source is it's an ecosystem, so some distros can make dumb decisions and die, while others make smart decisions and thrive.
@cjd @mhoye i think the overreach was clear from the start. i used arch and it declaring systemd as init system moved me away from it back in 2012 (or something). maybe i should start betting on shit. then it only got worse with more and more shit getting added, and the argument always was "the future" and "sunken cost".
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@cjd @mhoye imo, you can regard every distribution using systemd as the same thing. debian? suse? fedora? arch? it's the same damn thing by now, backed by billions in VC. it's possible, but increasingly hard to fight against the whole ecosystem. things like elogind are always one bullshit systemd api change away from breaking.
fatpak, snap, wayland, etc. only make it more worse, and are funded by the same corpos.
I think the most important point to recognize is that systemd is not just bad architecture, it exists the way it does for a reason. It is to force distros to do things that they wouldn't do otherwise.
Once a distro adopts it, they are no longer in charge of what they release. What's what IBM wants, and that's why they commissioned it in the first place.
But largely it just doesn't matter. People using systemd distros now were using windows 2 decades ago. It's just re-arranging the deck chairs a little bit.
Once a distro adopts it, they are no longer in charge of what they release. What's what IBM wants, and that's why they commissioned it in the first place.
But largely it just doesn't matter. People using systemd distros now were using windows 2 decades ago. It's just re-arranging the deck chairs a little bit.