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Indians will forever justify infesting whatever nation they can worm themselves into with muh reparations bullshit. Probably for the best that China owns Hong Kong now since the jeets know Xi won't fall for the ol' "British people touched this rock once so the vague ancestral debt collections department has granted us the inalienable right to colonize it".

Lot of people have this libertarianist idea that reasoned debate will win out in the end against everyone and everything.

Problem is, people who are not being honest w/ their intentions will never concede that you won, they'll always retreat to some sophistry and some percent of the (lower IQ) observers will think they're right.

When you accept debate from a sophist, you're accepting to lose. But fortunately there's a better solution, just make fun of them.

High IQ observers will understand that there's no point in engaging in debate, so they'll rate you on your meme quality. Low IQ observers will see the meme and laugh because that's all they've got going on. Midwits will get mad, but you can make fun of them too, in fact making fun of midwits is a patriotic duty.
The only place for a debate is when the king summons all the experts in a field to give their best arguments, and then he makes a decision and everyone follows it or they get their heads cut off.

You can replace the king with any other authority figure and it still works as long as he makes a call and that's the end of the debate.

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But even as you say that, you're saying it to me and the others in this thread - ostensibly because you'd like us to believe what you believe.

You're debating, and not to convince a king. Debate is how European (originally Greek) civilization works, we share opinions and hope to learn from each other.

BUT this is all predicated on good faith and shared objectives.