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@Eleutheria2 @catmanmancat @PNS I know. But roundabouts are made so that people can be less aware than lights intersections. usually people do a bunch of bs because they are self absorbed and egotistical. So the same boomer does not care because he is not in a hurry, but if he gets stuck in a jam then he gets mad and starts cutting people off.

So if these people were all just idiots, then they would stop yielding on entry, and the whole line of cars would disperse through the exit almost immediately. And that is also what is SUPPOSED to happen on a roundabout.
Again, there must be something wrong with the road.
@catmanmancat @Eleutheria2 @PNS I know.
when I say people in the line would stop yielding I mean the people that he drives past there in the beginning.
They should yield on entry, but they will not if they are stuck there for a minute. That is technically not legal, but it will happen, and this is accounted for by the design of a roundabout, which expects this behavior to override "yield to people already circling" when one entry is jammed. Ths means no line can form like it does on a normal intersection. This is why roundabouts have so much more throughput than traffic lights.

Even IF nobody broke the rules, and the stray cars that want to use the same exit that the people in line want do not let those into the roundabout, that would mean two or three car gap before throughput can resume. That also does not explain the line forming. The roundabout is not at capacity. The exit road is not at capacity. The people in line are behaving correctly (the guy isn't). And yet there is a line.
There must be something wrong with the road!

🧩 :alert: btw sorry
@Kazak @PNS @Eleutheria2 @catmanmancat so either
-truck waiting time before they have an opening averages a couple seconds and it's just normal that the truck can continue in that time, the jam has some other reason.
OR
-the guy just happened to drive past the truck that causes the jam, exactly at the moment that he got really lucky and had an opening, after waiting for minutes and causing the entire thing