this is a very stupid take driven by emotion
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Well, where he's right is that Air Supremacy doesn't really work when the enemy can bomb all of your air strips within a few hours flight away.
Fighter jets don't go very far on a tank of fuel, and even if you're trying to do arial refueling, it's a huge pain to try to have to fly hours to put a bomb on a target and then fly hours back again - and your refueling aircraft as also kind of sitting ducks as well.
Iran has just called into question the whole concept of air-first doctrine.
Fighter jets don't go very far on a tank of fuel, and even if you're trying to do arial refueling, it's a huge pain to try to have to fly hours to put a bomb on a target and then fly hours back again - and your refueling aircraft as also kind of sitting ducks as well.
Iran has just called into question the whole concept of air-first doctrine.
@cjd I'm a huge skeptic and critic of air power but using this war as a litmus test is ridiculous. this was supposed to be a quick little raid, not a full blown total war, and that's how it was planned and executed
relying on air power without ground forces invading simultaneously is extremely stupid and has literally never worked in the entire history of military aviation. didn't need this war to learn that
relying on air power without ground forces invading simultaneously is extremely stupid and has literally never worked in the entire history of military aviation. didn't need this war to learn that
@deprecated_ii @cjd >supposed to be a quick little raid, not a full blown total war
to the point that people, to try and defend this debacle, will even conflate "goals" and "means":
>The US military and its ally achieved operational victory on day one with a mass decapitation strike.
that wasn't the goal. The goal was (Israel:) a failed state, or (US:) regime change and US occupation. Decapitation was supposed to achieve that, or if failing to achieve that, at least improve the situation while leaving the US with convenient off-ramps to reevaluate and then strike again later.
Instead of giving the US more options while reducing Iran's options, the day one strikes freed Iran and destroyed our off-ramps, which is locking us into a catastrophic strategic defeat.
I wanted the girl. I proposed to the girl. The girl shot me down. This was an operational victory as soon as I proposed to the girl. Cease your attempts to describe this as a failure to get the girl.
to the point that people, to try and defend this debacle, will even conflate "goals" and "means":
>The US military and its ally achieved operational victory on day one with a mass decapitation strike.
that wasn't the goal. The goal was (Israel:) a failed state, or (US:) regime change and US occupation. Decapitation was supposed to achieve that, or if failing to achieve that, at least improve the situation while leaving the US with convenient off-ramps to reevaluate and then strike again later.
Instead of giving the US more options while reducing Iran's options, the day one strikes freed Iran and destroyed our off-ramps, which is locking us into a catastrophic strategic defeat.
I wanted the girl. I proposed to the girl. The girl shot me down. This was an operational victory as soon as I proposed to the girl. Cease your attempts to describe this as a failure to get the girl.
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