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@captainepoch @sun peter thiel stay winning, as always

@icedquinn @sun Is that something from US politics? I don't catch the reference...

@captainepoch @sun peter thiel is a billionaire who's game is spying on everyone for government money.

he's got a lot of business from all these international "age verification" putsches

@icedquinn @sun Ah... I didn't know about him... He can go and fuck himself with a pole on fire.

@captainepoch @sun i'm guessing if you did an audit there's billionaires behind the spy bills. there usually is.

@icedquinn @captainepoch I traced it and all the NGOs pushing this were primarily funded by other NGOs that get funding from the USA and UK governments. It's pure government astroturf

@icedquinn @captainepoch chatcontrol is being pushed by anti human trafficking orgs that are primarily funded by governments.

@captainepoch @icedquinn age verification is being pushed by Palantir and Meta though so yes billionaires are behind stuff but not chatcontrol afaict

@sun @captainepoch @icedquinn If it quacks like a duck

@Pi_rat @captainepoch @icedquinn both google and meta chose on their own to experiment with e2ee as a direct result of usg threatening and hacking them, so it's kind of the opposite reality to what wired was presenting. I don't think google/meta are very good, and they do want to spy on you, but tbh I think they realized your social graph is the valuable part

@sun @Pi_rat @captainepoch "we kill people based on metadata." --the nsa