If you had to leave your country, which country would you move to and why?
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What are the circumstances for leaving?
Poop hits the fan.
Like a civil war or something?
Like whatever circumstance it would have to be for you to make that decision.
Well I wouldn't make the decision. This is my country, and I'm going to fight. If I get to live out my warlord fantasies (get cooked by a stray bullet), I'm going to take that opportunity. There are a lot of bad people that need to be deleted. I'm not saying it for the sake of bravado; it's just what I have already decided I will do. Besides, if shit hits the fan, how are you going to leave? If things are bad enough to where there is war in the streets, do you think you'd really be able to get on a plane? Probably not.
I recently got my passport and am seriously considering leaving. I love this country too, but it’s very expensive and I’m not sure how I’m going to pay for everything here. Also with everything happening it’s getting more divided and more likely that something will pop off. I’m probably not going anywhere but was just thinking and wondering what other people’s plans were.
I understand your perspective, but any "safe" country you go to is going to have the same problems, more or less. France is full of sand niggers, Europe is full of sand niggers, Sweden is full of rapey sand niggers, America is full of taco niggers, sand niggers, light bulb head niggers, OEM niggers, jewish niggers, et cetera. I do not believe there is a place for "us" until we take it back. I think you'd find you'd just be in the same spot but with less money after the move.
I can kinda chime in on this b/c I actually did exactly that 12 years ago.
My choice was France, and it has been very good, but I don't want to recommend a choice -> rather a framework for making a choice.
1. Firstly, you have to forget all of the Anglosphere countries, they're all hell holes worse than the US 😭
2. Then you want countries which have a decent amount of sovereignty - Germany for instance just has to do whatever the US tells them to, they're more of a colony.
3. Skip major powers like Russia and China, because For Some Reason, they have a weird tenancy to have the same kind of weird dystopian shit that the US does.
4. Countries like El Salvador and Argentina are attractive IN THE MOMENT, but you want to think about the Lindy Effect - if the country spend 90 out of it's last hundred years being a desperate shithole, it's most likely that it will go back to that *in your lifetime*.
5. Some countries (e.g. Greece) have really strong culture, you will never fit in at all unless maybe if you marry a local. Other countries have really weak culture and are being overrun and gutted as we speak. You want to be somewhere in the middle where it's hard but not impossible to integrate.
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The single biggest benefit you will get from crossing a border is you isolate yourself from the toxic and suicidal American culture, and as you are intentionally adopting culture of the country you are in, you can make a point of choosing The Good Parts.
However, since your name is "Miss", I will give fair warning that pretty much no other country coddles Women as much as the US, so there is a certain culture shock that is unavoidable.
Last point: There are three possible family structures: Move w/ American spouse, marry a local, or marry a 3rd country national and live in a country that is not the homeland of either. Each has costs and benefits, but this post is getting too long already...
My choice was France, and it has been very good, but I don't want to recommend a choice -> rather a framework for making a choice.
1. Firstly, you have to forget all of the Anglosphere countries, they're all hell holes worse than the US 😭
2. Then you want countries which have a decent amount of sovereignty - Germany for instance just has to do whatever the US tells them to, they're more of a colony.
3. Skip major powers like Russia and China, because For Some Reason, they have a weird tenancy to have the same kind of weird dystopian shit that the US does.
4. Countries like El Salvador and Argentina are attractive IN THE MOMENT, but you want to think about the Lindy Effect - if the country spend 90 out of it's last hundred years being a desperate shithole, it's most likely that it will go back to that *in your lifetime*.
5. Some countries (e.g. Greece) have really strong culture, you will never fit in at all unless maybe if you marry a local. Other countries have really weak culture and are being overrun and gutted as we speak. You want to be somewhere in the middle where it's hard but not impossible to integrate.
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The single biggest benefit you will get from crossing a border is you isolate yourself from the toxic and suicidal American culture, and as you are intentionally adopting culture of the country you are in, you can make a point of choosing The Good Parts.
However, since your name is "Miss", I will give fair warning that pretty much no other country coddles Women as much as the US, so there is a certain culture shock that is unavoidable.
Last point: There are three possible family structures: Move w/ American spouse, marry a local, or marry a 3rd country national and live in a country that is not the homeland of either. Each has costs and benefits, but this post is getting too long already...
Yeah you’re probably right, I should just stay put.ive heard France is actually overrun with nons. You must be in the countryside.
I am, but I used to be in and near Paris and it is objectively better than any major American city because (generally speaking) African-French are much higher quality people than African-Americans.
What I would say overall is think about your goals and think about what you are willing to sacrifice to achieve them (can you live without cheese-its?) and then you can make a rational decision of whether you want to emigrate or not.
What I would say overall is think about your goals and think about what you are willing to sacrifice to achieve them (can you live without cheese-its?) and then you can make a rational decision of whether you want to emigrate or not.
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4I don’t eat processed food. It’s something I’ve been thinking about but I guess it’s a not right now thing, maybe in the future.
The way I would think about it is like The Pitch that the military always used to give: "it'll be hard, but it will make you a better person".
Learning a language is not easy, I *still* don't speak French that well. Learning a culture, way of doing things, insane government bureaucracy, it's all challenging, but you come out better for it...
Learning a language is not easy, I *still* don't speak French that well. Learning a culture, way of doing things, insane government bureaucracy, it's all challenging, but you come out better for it...
I speak a very little French. But other than that all I speak is English and maybe a little Latin. lol
Learning a language is unfortunately part of it, because all of the English speaking countries are in a particularly sorry state right now.