If i was in power and could do as i want in europe. i'd take shit tons of ecb money to stomp a semiconductor industry out of the ground and remove anti circumvention laws. i'd make asylum seekers revitalize dead villages on the german country side after 3 years of speedrunning learning german language and bureaucracy. These immigrants would eat Bretzel and Weißwurst and work 32+h per week on pushing german infrastructure forwards.
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@condret
You would enslave asylum seekers?
@light no, i would offer them an easy opportunity to have a fair paying job in germany. first they learn basics of the german language, then they can work together with native germans to improve our public infrastructure. studies have shown that employment helps with integration.
@light the program would be part of an eu wide job guarantee. there is so much to do:
- put solarpanels on every suitable roof
- put batteries in the basement walls of every house
- repair bridges
- build datacenters
- build chip fabs
- build synthetic fuel refineries (i believe that current ice cars will remain on the streets for many years, and we really need a solution that doesn't require consumers to buy a new electric car or go full public transport)
- put solarpanels on every suitable roof
- put batteries in the basement walls of every house
- repair bridges
- build datacenters
- build chip fabs
- build synthetic fuel refineries (i believe that current ice cars will remain on the streets for many years, and we really need a solution that doesn't require consumers to buy a new electric car or go full public transport)
:gondola_head: 🌿 
@condret @light
>solarpanels on every suitable roof
Look at the life time.
Look at how it can be recycled (it can't without costing more than the product).
>put batteries
Same issue.
Energy speaking what consumes the most is heating water, which is coincidentally the thing that people use the most.
Laundry, hot water, dishes, hot water, heating, can be hot water, hygiene, hot water.
The best way would be to go for solar vacuum tube heaters, and you can couple that with thermal battery storage.
As for other sources already available. Home methanization is also a thing that can even be stored in compressed gas tanks.
Other than that there's home scale wind turbines but will only work for houses either on the coast or villages in the middle of crop fields.
>build datacenters
For what purposes ?
>build chip fabs
I agree.
> build synthetic fuel refineries
What ?
>solarpanels on every suitable roof
Look at the life time.
Look at how it can be recycled (it can't without costing more than the product).
>put batteries
Same issue.
Energy speaking what consumes the most is heating water, which is coincidentally the thing that people use the most.
Laundry, hot water, dishes, hot water, heating, can be hot water, hygiene, hot water.
The best way would be to go for solar vacuum tube heaters, and you can couple that with thermal battery storage.
As for other sources already available. Home methanization is also a thing that can even be stored in compressed gas tanks.
Other than that there's home scale wind turbines but will only work for houses either on the coast or villages in the middle of crop fields.
>build datacenters
For what purposes ?
>build chip fabs
I agree.
> build synthetic fuel refineries
What ?
@mangeurdenuage @light You make it sound, as if solarpanels suddenly stop working at some point
@condret @mangeurdenuage @light their efficiency drops after installation and there are formulas for calculating the electricity saved over the effective lifetime vs the price
@sun @condret @light @mangeurdenuage is there a "heat map" for geographical region and cost-effectiveness of panel installation?