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i fucking hate the antiquated notion that the male contributes the seed of the new organism and the female germinates it in her womb. the female both contributes an equal amount of genetic material AND gestates the fetus. no one can deny she has vastly more of a share in reproduction, which for a man is wholly pleasurable and a woman is mostly quite painful and arduous.

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@lain @newt to be more accurate my post was about the male reproductive role, not fatherhood. i used fatherhood euphemistically specifically to contrast reproductive sex with casual sex. fatherhood occurs mostly after birth, reproduction before it. the content of my post (addressing outdated theories of reproduction where the sperm is basically a homonculus and the female germinates it) is not "a father is useless" (although many fathers are, including mine). anyway i don't think its controversial that the male reproductive role is essentially sex.