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we're offering $700 Billion.
if they don't take that offer they just get blockaded and invaded and Denmark can throw butter cookies at us.
I think everyone is basically admitted to the fact that International Law is meaningless. We're in the Strong Do What They Can / Weak Suffer What They Must stage of the empire.
@cjd @alf @magicalthinking it seems weird that there are people who think something comes before force. That one can start with principles, and derive a stable world from that, rather than start from a stable world and derive principles
I'm sure there's a more eloquent way to put it but hopefully it's clear what I'm saying
I'm sure there's a more eloquent way to put it but hopefully it's clear what I'm saying
First comes force. Then comes the recognition that in a world ruled by force alone, everybody loses. From that comes law, norms, and red lines. Then from comes the desire to break the rules to gain a little bit of advantage. Then from that, we go back to a world ruled by brute force.
We're in phase 3/4, depending on who you ask.
We're in phase 3/4, depending on who you ask.
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I don't know, but I imagine they took it by force - during the previous period of Hard Times.
Now it will be taken from them in the next.
I don't really blame Trump for this, he's doing what Putin is doing - recognizing that international laws, customs and norms have been discarded.
Who discarded them? Bush when he legitimized torture. Everyone when they threw rule of law overboard because muh covid. Democrats when they decided that stuffing ballot boxes was okay because "it's weally weally impowtant the good guy wins"...
Weak men make hard times is a global cultural phenomenon, it's not confined to one person.
Now it will be taken from them in the next.
I don't really blame Trump for this, he's doing what Putin is doing - recognizing that international laws, customs and norms have been discarded.
Who discarded them? Bush when he legitimized torture. Everyone when they threw rule of law overboard because muh covid. Democrats when they decided that stuffing ballot boxes was okay because "it's weally weally impowtant the good guy wins"...
Weak men make hard times is a global cultural phenomenon, it's not confined to one person.
@magicalthinking @cjd @Merc @alf Denmark colonised Greenland in the 18th century when missionary Hans Egede arrived in 1721,
In 1916, the United States bought the Danish West Indies - now the U.S. Virgin Islands - for $25 million in gold.
As part of that treaty, Woodrow Wilson said the US would not object to the Danish government extending its "political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland", formally recognising Danish sovereignty.
Greenland was inhabited by Inuit peoples from Asia and North America intermittently from around 2,500 BC. Around 985 AD, Vikings led by Erik the Red settled in southern Greenland, farming and building churches. Around the same time, ancestors of today's Inuit arrived, living as hunters and gatherers. They became the dominant culture, pushing out Viking settlers around 1400. Inuit still live in Greenland.
In 1916, the United States bought the Danish West Indies - now the U.S. Virgin Islands - for $25 million in gold.
As part of that treaty, Woodrow Wilson said the US would not object to the Danish government extending its "political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland", formally recognising Danish sovereignty.
Greenland was inhabited by Inuit peoples from Asia and North America intermittently from around 2,500 BC. Around 985 AD, Vikings led by Erik the Red settled in southern Greenland, farming and building churches. Around the same time, ancestors of today's Inuit arrived, living as hunters and gatherers. They became the dominant culture, pushing out Viking settlers around 1400. Inuit still live in Greenland.