Rich men 🤝 dying from treatable cancer because they refuse conventional medicine in favor of pseudoscientific bunk
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@mushroom_soup He was vaccine truster before. Also cancer affects your brain, in my experience a lot of people prefer to give up, especially old ones.
@Marakus So basically what you're saying is taking MAGA health advice gives you the cognitive equivalent of having a brain riddled with cancer
@Marakus Anti medicalism on the right has gotten out of hand, just yesterday I saw someone on Twitter say that eating beef tallow was an appropriate substitute for taking literal antibiotics
@Marakus His reasoning behind antibiotics being 'bad' was because he 'always felt bad after taking them' YEAH BECAUSE YOU TAKE THEM WHEN YOUR BODY IS FIGHTING OFF AN INFECTION, THAT GENERALLY IS NOT A PROCESS THAT FEELS GOOD
@Marakus Another person was like "well what did people do before antibiotics then huh?" PEOPLE DIED. PEOPLE DIED ALL THE TIME FROM INFECTIONS, WE HAD WHOLE PLAGUES OVER IT. SOMEONE WOULD GET A CUT ON THEIR FOOT AND THEN A WEEK LATER DIE FROM SEPSIS THIS WAS A COMMON THING
@Marakus Another person in that thread helpfully pointed out that 'anti' means against and 'biotic' means life SO OMG GUYS THAT'S HOW YOU CAN TELL IT'S BAD FOR YOU I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'VE LET DOCTORS POISON US LIKE THIS
@Marakus Also if you feel confident that the average person could never be so stupid so we shouldn't worry about it remember that we're currently in the middle of a 'pasteurization is bad actually' revolution among midwit rightoids
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@mushroom_soup @Marakus Pasteurisation was maybe appropriate during the early industrial era, as a broad response to an enormous amount of abuse and misuse, terrible hygiene, and H&S standards.
Industrial and agricultural standards are such that these abuses are illegal and punished much more often today. It's not really a big deal now, nor was it prior to the industrial era. I don't think pasteurisation is necessary or desirable, as long as those standards are maintained, and it certainly shouldn't be illegal to sell normal milk (as it is in my country for example).
Industrial and agricultural standards are such that these abuses are illegal and punished much more often today. It's not really a big deal now, nor was it prior to the industrial era. I don't think pasteurisation is necessary or desirable, as long as those standards are maintained, and it certainly shouldn't be illegal to sell normal milk (as it is in my country for example).
@CatLord @Marakus I one hundred thousand percent don't trust large corporations not to risk my life to dysentery if it means Line Go Up nor do I trust government organizations like the FDA (which are currently being undermined by the trump administration) to adequately enforce standards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Austrian_diethylene...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Austrian_diethylene...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
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@mushroom_soup @Marakus My point in the previous post, was that it was scandals like this (industrial abuse), that brought about pasteurisation in the first place, even though it doesn't do anything for non-bacterial contamination.
The infant formula one you linked is one that will be familiar to any Australian, because Chinese diaspora in Australia started mass buying formula and shipping it to their relatives and other buyers in China.
Returning to my main argument, any time anyone buys a product from the store, they're relying on health and safety standards. It applies to cookies and weird processed foods as much as meat or milk. Pasteurisation only eliminates the one vector of contamination. People still suffer bacterial food poisoning and there are food recalls from processed and non-processed goods in the store.
The infant formula one you linked is one that will be familiar to any Australian, because Chinese diaspora in Australia started mass buying formula and shipping it to their relatives and other buyers in China.
Returning to my main argument, any time anyone buys a product from the store, they're relying on health and safety standards. It applies to cookies and weird processed foods as much as meat or milk. Pasteurisation only eliminates the one vector of contamination. People still suffer bacterial food poisoning and there are food recalls from processed and non-processed goods in the store.
@mushroom_soup @CatLord @Marakus >I one hundred thousand percent don't trust large corporations
Indeed, like when was the last time even a medium sized domestic company was held accountable for f@cking anything? The 80s?
Indeed, like when was the last time even a medium sized domestic company was held accountable for f@cking anything? The 80s?