@mirq @theorytoe @lain the brain of a human is built to need suffering to a significant extent to thrive. thriving is a counter contrast to suffering. without knowing any suffering direct or proxy, a human soul is nothing and fails to grow. the goal of UBI is to minimize suffering, but it is a temporary solution ; an endgame reset to wider spread depressions, more suicides, longer and more sufferings statistically than just not doing that.
to remove what is the last great basic motivator to action from humans, is a great gamble. a gamble that has so far in a 100+ small scale tests failed time and time again.
that is the part im sure we agree on to an extent
the part i did not agree to a significant extent is explained in the following:
the government ensures the safety and continuation of a people by increasing large scale stability against other states (basically a state is a apex predator of the food chain, a conceptual continuation of humans as the apex predator). the methods of keeping stability are irrelevant if there is no outside pressure to a government. it is the people's job to force the government to remain on course towards not becoming draconian mafia-like in its methods.
Every man is his own fate's smith, and pours his own luck. Every man MUST commit to SOME work directly tied to the survival of himself and his surroundings. I disagree the consistent work, the past 10 years have clearly shown me that anyone who still believes in the concept of consistent work as the school systems still parrot, have to be the luckiest ones to secure such a lucky job. Be you an artist, be you a paper pusher, be you a programmer, be you a cashier; your ability to continue your career no longer is hinged on your supervisor and CEOs business choices. Changing a job every 1 to 3 years is the norm for having the most stable job. Maybe this opinion is a bit too harsh on cashiers, because unironically i think that might be the most stable job that is not going to be replaced in a lot of places, while offering almost no career path, atleast in home country and other autism-prone countries people hate and are upset by the use of self-serve-cashiers (at home, the usual comment is "why do I have to do someone else's job for free without any compensation?").
recap on my disagreements: "consistent" work is too inconsistent and an outdated concept, replaced with consistent learning; governments are not to ensure happiness but rather stability (minimize wars, maximize safety); average joes should be the counter to authority (maximize happiness, minimize state intervention), i enjoy humans thriving but all UBI(-styled) thoughts i view as a downgrade, a removal of motivators towards success. the free market is a infinite balancing act fight between avoiding and breaking up natural monopolies (self-destructing feature of free-markets) and personal and entrepeneurlike freedoms to succeed solely on one's own terms (and fail on one own terms)
timed (a year or so) jobless benefits based on paid jobless tax (state-wide insurance, so total failure isnt punished while extreme laziness isnt rewarded) are the best functioning UBI-adjacent feature there is and honestly can ever be. Despite, even then some slip through this UBI system, but the pressure of the time and the humiliation rituals are enough to get the majority of lazy-asses to stop being lazy-asses after losing a job and progress in life, instead of stagnate and rot.
