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@snacks @niobleoum @bronze
>If you demand they go off the fucking markings so he can overtake you're pretending he owns the road

I'm not demanding it, but it's a sensible thing almost everybody does. Except for a select few mamils that are universally hated by everyone. Other cyclists hate them, because they make everyone look bad and drivers hate them because they are arrogant.

Also yes, roads are for cars and cyclists will always be second citizens on roads. If you aren't comfortable with that, use bike roads and trails instead.
@snacks @niobleoum @bronze Who said get off the road? I said get of to the side and if you aren't comfortable with being a second class on roads, consider using roads and paths specifically designed for cycling. It's safer that way for everyone involved anyway.

Also thanks to the double line, it is illegal to overtake them by going to the second lane, so they should have gone to the side of the road no matter what to make the distance into the opposite lane as small as possible. It's the same in Europe, you technically aren't allowed to overtake cyclists on a two lane road when it is a full line. Most people do though.

Personally I don't care much about cyclists on roads as I rarely see them. I rarely drive in a city to get annoyed at them.
@phnt @niobleoum @bronze only way to ivertake them here without crossing the line is if they get off the marked road. In this case it's kinda ok because there's still asphalt but usually there wouldn't be. Also, sometimes you mean getting off the road when you say to the side and sometimes you don't? I do agree that if there was an angry car honking behind me my reaction wouldn't be to stay side by side and send someone back to film tho

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