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@sun could be... I have yet to read her books, but someone whom I respect heavily in the field (calls himself an Forensic Historian, if I recall correctly) found much confirmation to cite in her published work.

didn't we already have a near-miss on cdbcs in the us?

I liken it to TIA - That program was not shut down, just renamed, now run by Palantir, I think.

There is a tremendous amount of lying going on, Webb has apparently had a fairly good track record overall at sussing stuff out.

@sun so I have heard, as well. Quite a few people in one of my circles are really into rabbit holes and also value her work... I have been working at reigning myself in, instead focusing on building a parallel economy locally.

Rest of the world will have to figure it out for themselves, I just take care of those in my immediate influence, when I can.

Thanks!

@sun @Ree @thatbrickster i hope this will be different because noone can defend what happened here.

some people are actually in favor of mass surveillance publically. or imprisoning innocent people. some people are actually in favor of Guantanamo. people publically defending human trafficking of minors is pretty small.

also since this affects all kind of elites, it is less partisan.

but it is hopium on my side. i really hope this will be a red line.