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@TrevorGoodchild @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @thefinn @Paleface Israel done fucked up. Ground invasion is now impossible.

Caleb James DeLisle

I think the Iranians will allow the Americans to do a ground invasion because it gives them an excuse to use their infantry and they can impose a lot more pain that way.

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@cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn I don't know about that. The war is politically unpopular. I just can't see any scenario where we have boots on the ground. Lebanon maybe to save the Jews.

Bunsen

@DC5FAN @cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn The boots on the ground might actually be to evacuate Israelis.

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@GoonPatrol@poa.st remote

@Bunsen @cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn Don't bring them here.

GoonPatrol

@DC5FAN @Bunsen @cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn We don't have a choice in the matter given how ZOG'ed the US is.

Caleb James DeLisle

It's a little bit more complex than that. Israeli government doesn't want Israeli people to be able to leave because if they can, the country goes extinct.

For the Israeli government, it's better if all jews in the world are forced to flee to Israel. That's why they were extremely public about the Gaza genocide. The backlash helps them.

Bunsen

@cjd @GoonPatrol @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @DC5FAN @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn How does it help them? The world is cheering for Iran.

Caleb James DeLisle

The more Europeans and Americans hate Jews, the more Jews feel forced to move to Israel.

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@cjd @Bunsen @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn If the Arabs overrun them, that isn't going to happen.

Bunsen

@DC5FAN @cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn Israel is bleeding badly with multiple desalination and chemical plants destroyed.

The Middle East will never be the same after this.

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@Bunsen @cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn Huge miscalculation. This war has spiralled into an existential threat. Once they are on the ropes, Egypt and Turkey could join in to finish them off.

Caleb James DeLisle

Someone linked a video a while back that really explained Israel's situation pretty well.

Basically their society is fragmenting between three groups:
1. Liberal / non-religious tech sector people who want Israel to be a western democracy
2. Hasidic Jews who live off welfare and refuse military service that is obligatory for everyone else
3. Religious fanatics (the Greater Israel crowd) who are heavily represented in the military and want to genocide everyone and make it into a theocracy

Continuous war is a way to keep all of the groups more or less placated, but it's becoming less and less sustainable. Israel is at the "go big or go home" stage and they're trying to go big.

Replying to @cjd@pkteerium.xyz

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@cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Bunsen @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn That was the plan. But the plan has gone to shit and they are getting wrecked. The Hasidim will mostly flee if things get worse as with the westernized folks. Only the Zionist will go down fighting.

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Caleb James DeLisle

@GoonPatrol@poa.st remote

Nobody's fleeing right now, the airport is closed.

But they're in a tricky situation. As I have said in the past, I think they are trying to create a situation where all Jews in Europe and America get deported (or forced to flee) to Israel.

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GoonPatrol

@cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Bunsen @DC5FAN @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn That makes no sense, kikes are cowards by nature, how is burning israel to the ground gonna make kikes in Europe and the US go there?

Even if there was mass anti-semitic riots in both Europe and the US the kikes would sooner go to China or India.

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Caleb James DeLisle

Israeli government wants warm bodies, so they will certainly negotiate with countries like China and India to ensure that they are closed to Jewish immigration, so Jews are left with only one option.

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@GoonPatrol@poa.st remote

@cjd @GoonPatrol @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Bunsen @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn That's a suicide pact at this point.

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GoonPatrol

@cjd @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Bunsen @DC5FAN @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn With what bargaining chips? The jews use their control over the US and blackmail to get shit from other countries. If the US is gone their power is gone with it.

Also, US and Euro jews have money, they will bride their way out before going to israel if things get any hotter.

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Caleb James DeLisle

> With what bargaining chips?

It's a fair question, I'm not sure. I would say the main thing they have to offer is a counter-balance to the Suez and Persian Gulf becoming a unified Islamic Empire which will collect tolls on all shipping and all oil sales.

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Bunsen