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For them, 1000 dead Iranian soldiers are war heroes, and their names are a rallying cry to fight harder. Nobody fights as hard as someone being invaded.

For the US, 1000 dead Americans is just PAIN, and a rallying cry to impeach Trump, strip him of his assets, and throw him in prison.
Right but I mean they're just not gonna try here.

I think the world is going to conclude that it's better to keep propping up Israel than let the religious fanatical subset of Jews spill out into other countries. It's kind of the same logic as Ukraine. Europe will do anything to keep Ukraine functioning because having Azov spill out across Europe is unthinkable.
Russia and China would like to entangle the US into something they can't win and can't afford to lose, so I expect they will find the necessary economic pressure points to make that happen.

But then when the US does lose, I think they will flip and support Israel just enough that it doesn't cease to exist, because nobody (geopolitically significant) really wants it gone.
You're thinking like an individual, but what controls geopolitical decision making is thinking like a strategist.

For Europe, China, and Russia, Israel does three things:
1. Provides a counter-balance against the possible rise of a Muslim empire in the middle east which would otherwise control oil and tax global trade through the Suez
2. Creates a pressure point which can be used to control/influence the Jewish diaspora
3. Offers an adventure for Jewish religious zealots which is conveniently located far away from everyone else
Ehh, it's geopolitics, everyone is interconnected. Russia & China have a million ways to help or hurt the Iranian government. Everyone can create pressure or make incentives if they want something.

The reason why this war is dumb is because the US has already given up most of its leverage (40 years of sanctions), AND, Russia and China are all too happy to prop up Iran for as long as it takes in order to sink the US.
US is going to tap out - and probably have a civil war to reset it's own internal situation.

That leaves a question: What's the middle east gonna look like?

Relevant actors are Russia, China, and Europe - since the US is gonna be licking its wounds for a while.
@cjd @DC5FAN @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn >nobody fights harder than somebody being invaded

Americans in the mountains would love to shoot Iranians stepping foot there too. The biggest problem is if our own anti-White government assists them after retaking power and putting the mass invasion into overdrive after demoralizing and humiliating White Americans.

Jews and the Gates of Toledo. Same players. Same game.
> Americans in the mountains would love to shoot Iranians stepping foot there too.

I've found that a very informative thought experiment is to flip everything in that way. Imagine being invaded and how people would react, and you can expect that kind of reaction from the Iranians.

Also common Iranians not liking the Iranian government - though perhaps not quite to the extent that the American government is hated...
It's a little bit more complex than that. Israeli government doesn't want Israeli people to be able to leave because if they can, the country goes extinct.

For the Israeli government, it's better if all jews in the world are forced to flee to Israel. That's why they were extremely public about the Gaza genocide. The backlash helps them.

So it creates a weird situation where like, Epstein files coming out, ADL going around kicking every hornet's nest they possibly can, etc.. All horribly bad for individual Jews living in Europe and America, but all quite good for Israel because it drives migration. So guess who is going to be supporting this type of stuff...

Someone linked a video a while back that really explained Israel's situation pretty well.

Basically their society is fragmenting between three groups:
1. Liberal / non-religious tech sector people who want Israel to be a western democracy
2. Hasidic Jews who live off welfare and refuse military service that is obligatory for everyone else
3. Religious fanatics (the Greater Israel crowd) who are heavily represented in the military and want to genocide everyone and make it into a theocracy

Continuous war is a way to keep all of the groups more or less placated, but it's becoming less and less sustainable. Israel is at the "go big or go home" stage and they're trying to go big.
Nobody's fleeing right now, the airport is closed.

But they're in a tricky situation. As I have said in the past, I think they are trying to create a situation where all Jews in Europe and America get deported (or forced to flee) to Israel.