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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip Just because Arch is terrible doesn't mean this applies to every other distro though.
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@SuperDicq @volpeon Yeah, although grub being painfully unreliable is rather distro-agnostic, yet it's the bootloader of choice of nearly all distros.
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip What's unreliable about GRUB? I can't recall ever having issues with it.
@SuperDicq @volpeon Things aren't always about you, there's a ton of well documented failures of grub and that's the tip of the iceberg.
And I hate this "works for me" (aka "fuck you got mine") attitude with things, do not do this ever again.
And I hate this "works for me" (aka "fuck you got mine") attitude with things, do not do this ever again.
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip
And I hate this "works for me" attitude with things, do not do this ever again.There is no objective way to measure something like "reliability", it will always be very subjective and based on personal experience.
I have always thought it is very reliable because it has never failed me. But you think it is not reliable, so I'm curious as to what experiences you have had that made you think it is unreliable.
This is a normal way how people discuss things and learn for each other. It's not an attitude and I'm not going to promise to "not do this ever again".
@SuperDicq @volpeon The reasons why I'm taking it as unreliable are basically architectural, it'll work for most but the failure modes are the worst for a bootloader to have.
grub-install can literally fail to fully install and not report an error. Combine this with how modules have ABI breaks without backward compatibility, so you get the MBR or EFI executable updated to a new version but without their modules required for bootup.
Similarly grub-install often fails to detect the hardware, which is stuff that ought to be into a configuration (allowing a verification step) instead of magically done every time it's executed.
grub-mkconfig similarly can create config files that it then cannot parse, that one even predates grub 2.x
grub-install can literally fail to fully install and not report an error. Combine this with how modules have ABI breaks without backward compatibility, so you get the MBR or EFI executable updated to a new version but without their modules required for bootup.
Similarly grub-install often fails to detect the hardware, which is stuff that ought to be into a configuration (allowing a verification step) instead of magically done every time it's executed.
grub-mkconfig similarly can create config files that it then cannot parse, that one even predates grub 2.x
@mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip I don't think a valid alternative really exists. Both Lilo and Syslinux are basically unmaintained.
@SuperDicq @lanodan @volpeon @mischievoustomato If you don't need the half-assed LUKS support (you don't if you trust secureboot :-DDD), refind, limine and systemd-boot are all valid alternatives.
@phnt@fluffytail.org @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love Refind and systemd-boot only work on proprietary UEFI crap hardware. I do not use UEFI on any of my computers. They are not valid alternatives for a fully free software bootloader.
@SuperDicq @lanodan @volpeon @mischievoustomato Cringe, clover exists and is still maintained and you can boot all three from that probably.
@mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @Mamako@tsundere.love @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip I'm a proud freetard. I don't give a shit.
@mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @Mamako@tsundere.love @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip By calling me a "freetard" you're calling me someone who actually like cares about morals and ethics. Other than the fact that it is based on a slur I don't think the thing that it implies is offensive at all.
@SuperDicq @lanodan @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako At least you aren't a GNU/Glowie yet unlike Suiseiseki with his glowing recommendations for turning your home router into a home server as well and running Tor exit nodes on your router.
@phnt @volpeon @SuperDicq @lanodan @Mamako @mischievoustomato I have only recommenceded to run a tor middle - never a tor exit.
A blindingly obvious joke about running an exit at home was clearly not a serious recommendation.
Provided you live in a country that isn't totally retarded, if you were to do the based move of setting up an exit relay at home, provided you setup rDNS and the tor exit notice correctly, the feds are extremely unlikely to do anything (although the ISP may cut you off and a bunch of sites will censor you).
A blindingly obvious joke about running an exit at home was clearly not a serious recommendation.
Provided you live in a country that isn't totally retarded, if you were to do the based move of setting up an exit relay at home, provided you setup rDNS and the tor exit notice correctly, the feds are extremely unlikely to do anything (although the ISP may cut you off and a bunch of sites will censor you).
@Suiseiseki @volpeon @SuperDicq @lanodan @Mamako @mischievoustomato nice try fed.
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@Suiseiseki @phnt @volpeon @SuperDicq @lanodan @Mamako @mischievoustomato >Provided you live in a country that isn't totally retarded
@menherahair@eientei.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @Mamako@tsundere.love @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love My ISP is based and as far as I know they do not block TOR exit nodes, but honestly I don't want my IP address to be blackholed by half the internet.
@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @menherahair@eientei.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @Mamako@tsundere.love @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
I don't want my IP address to be blackholed by half the internet.no competent webmasters would do this to you
@lolitechengineer@loli.church @menherahair@eientei.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @Mamako@tsundere.love @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love Unfortunately there's a lot of incompetent webmasters who by default block all IPs associated with TOR exit nodes.
@SuperDicq @lanodan @Suiseiseki @menherahair @volpeon @mischievoustomato @lolitechengineer @Mamako Some are even on fedi...
@lolitechengineer @Suiseiseki @lanodan @menherahair @SuperDicq @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako It's not really the Mastodon crowd. Those are behind CF at worst. It's the GTS users which have extreme paranoia levels of "security".
@phnt @Suiseiseki @volpeon @lolitechengineer @SuperDicq @lanodan @Mamako @mischievoustomato go to """social"""
@phnt @menherahair @volpeon @lolitechengineer @SuperDicq @lanodan @Mamako @mischievoustomato >Concerned about security.
>Runs proprietary software.
>Runs proprietary software.
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @phnt@fluffytail.org @menherahair@eientei.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @Mamako@tsundere.love @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love if i cant study or modify the program, than surely no one else can!
@lolitechengineer @Suiseiseki @menherahair @phnt @SuperDicq @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako > anything web
> competent
Specially as the average managed website hoster probably doesn't cares about competency.
And then you have horrors like Cloudflare.
> competent
Specially as the average managed website hoster probably doesn't cares about competency.
And then you have horrors like Cloudflare.
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @menherahair@eientei.org @phnt@fluffytail.org @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @Mamako@tsundere.love
Cloudflaretis a silly entity. they stare into the lava lamps as they consume their own tail
@lolitechengineer @Suiseiseki @lanodan @menherahair @SuperDicq @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako
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@SuperDicq @Suiseiseki @menherahair @phnt @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako Yeah, better have that stuff on a spare IP.
Plus well you'll probably want to do this stuff in group as even in a decent country you might have to lawyer up at some point, as effectively you're providing an open-proxy VPN.
Plus well you'll probably want to do this stuff in group as even in a decent country you might have to lawyer up at some point, as effectively you're providing an open-proxy VPN.
@lanodan @menherahair @Suiseiseki @volpeon @SuperDicq @Mamako @mischievoustomato Yeah, setting up an llc is a minimum requirement for that, unless you want to end up in legal hell.
@SuperDicq @lanodan @phnt @volpeon @Mamako i just like software on its merits. I don't really hate FOSS, but I'm pragmatic. It just happens to be that I use mostly FOSS (or adjacent) software, and thus makes using Gentoo nicer. I think the only proprietary software I have (aside of drivers but that's necessary) is Chrome and Steam.
@mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @latein@cawfee.club @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @Mamako@tsundere.love Forks of it exist that remove its anti-features (like codium), but it's still very sketchy even then still.
I seriously don't understand why you would want to use it because especially when it comes to text editors of all things, the free software world definitely has you covered there.
@SuperDicq @lanodan @latein @phnt @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako All version of VSCode is proprietary software, as it is Electron software.
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @latein@cawfee.club @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @Mamako@tsundere.love Some versions of vscode do not use Electron though. Some of them are simply servers of which you run the frontend in an actual web browser.
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @latein@cawfee.club @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @Mamako@tsundere.love Still I don't understand why you would really want to use vscode when the world's best text editors like GNU Emacs, Vim and many more are all free software anyway.
@SuperDicq @lanodan @Suiseiseki @latein @phnt @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako people bitch about how slow electron apps are but it's still more responsive than emacs
@sun@shitposter.world @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @latein@cawfee.club @phnt@fluffytail.org @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @Mamako@tsundere.love I don't really think Emacs is slow by default. This complaint usually only comes from people who use really bloated Emacs distros like Doom Emacs and such.
@SuperDicq @lanodan @Suiseiseki @latein @phnt @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako extending it is like 99% of the point of emacs
@SuperDicq @lanodan @Suiseiseki @phnt @sun @volpeon @mischievoustomato @Mamako I use doom emacs and it changed nothing, the speed complaints are the exact same as when I manually imported evil mode and TUI compatibility as my only plugins
@latein @phnt @Suiseiseki @volpeon @SuperDicq @lanodan @Mamako @mischievoustomato I swear I'm not complaining too much about emacs, I'm slowly learning it because I think it's useful.
@sun @phnt @Suiseiseki @volpeon @SuperDicq @lanodan @Mamako @mischievoustomato I use it as well because the extensibility and internal documentation is great, and never having to look at a single line of lua is more important than performance, but it is still a poor quality implementation
@mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip Running systemd on Gentoo is so funny to me. Most people actually install Gentoo because they want to avoid systemd.
@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip it does not have to do anything with arch itself. This can happen with every distro, if GRUB gets an update but fails or if the initcpio-Image was not build successfully.
The best way to avoid those issues is, by reading through the output of your package manager and ensuring that the installation of GRUB and the Initcpio process were successful.