Feeling a little blackpilled. Not about myself, I'm doing fine. Blackpilled about normies. They're getting raped out there. They are not okay. Homeslices at work are not doing okay.
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@Griffith They say the middle class was a white phenomenon until very recently, when China started to develop one. But I wonder if the age of the "normie" in the sense of a reasonably intelligent person, yet without the inclination and the knack for understanding power structures, might be over. In some sense, perhaps a return to ruler and slave class was inevitable. idk.
I've turned it over in my head a couple of times. Think it's just for the best to aim for something better. A society with ONLY the middle class (but cooler, and politically aware) would be pretty good, I think.
I've turned it over in my head a couple of times. Think it's just for the best to aim for something better. A society with ONLY the middle class (but cooler, and politically aware) would be pretty good, I think.
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@WandererUber Middle class is a European term for essentially merchants and the well-paid professionals. America had an extremely well-off working class that was so rich it came off like a European bourgouise. Besides the jews jewing, I think part of the change is that we've filled in the continent, and where America used to be the most globally competitive in all fields following the second world war, it now has competition in all sectors. We're still living off the fumes of post-war prosperity, but in the future there's going to be the world-class economy which will feel "middle class" and the rest of the economy, which is bleeding out and trying to hold itself up, will just keep slowly collapsing.
Personally, my plan B if I can't make it into the world-competitive class, and maybe even if I do, is to go to another country where my skills match a reasonable standard of living. Nugger was talking about China, and unironically, that's in consideration.
Personally, my plan B if I can't make it into the world-competitive class, and maybe even if I do, is to go to another country where my skills match a reasonable standard of living. Nugger was talking about China, and unironically, that's in consideration.
@Griffith This is a central issue of our times no doubt, there's a lot here
I think that if we continue on the path we have been, then the strata of society like we had them really will hit their limits pretty soon.
Like imagine the transformation of societies from hunter-gatherer to agrarian/herder. As an extremely oversimplified model, the herding peoples dominated the agrarian ones and became their nobles and that's where that structure emerged. You're right about the working class only coming off as a new thing, and I think this holds even for Europe itself. Because like we talked last time, many professionals etc were recruited from the hinterlands etc. and this means they sprung from the working class in the end.
I think it would be unreasonable to not assume that industrialization and computerization have an equally disruptive effect as the agrarian/pastoralist revolutions had, and I'm not so sure we can just put it off as having happened in the past with liberalism, socialism, etc. and now being solved.
To me it's more reasonable to think this process is ongoing. Nobody really knows what the new structure supposed to look like, but I doubt it's just "uh lets make the workers all be slaves or something"
An even more homogeneous population than Europeans were (genetically speaking) without genetic strata is gonna be best, that's what I think.
Doesn't help much with the move, except for the fact that China might deliberately put a stop to it if they are aiming for something big.
I think that if we continue on the path we have been, then the strata of society like we had them really will hit their limits pretty soon.
Like imagine the transformation of societies from hunter-gatherer to agrarian/herder. As an extremely oversimplified model, the herding peoples dominated the agrarian ones and became their nobles and that's where that structure emerged. You're right about the working class only coming off as a new thing, and I think this holds even for Europe itself. Because like we talked last time, many professionals etc were recruited from the hinterlands etc. and this means they sprung from the working class in the end.
I think it would be unreasonable to not assume that industrialization and computerization have an equally disruptive effect as the agrarian/pastoralist revolutions had, and I'm not so sure we can just put it off as having happened in the past with liberalism, socialism, etc. and now being solved.
To me it's more reasonable to think this process is ongoing. Nobody really knows what the new structure supposed to look like, but I doubt it's just "uh lets make the workers all be slaves or something"
An even more homogeneous population than Europeans were (genetically speaking) without genetic strata is gonna be best, that's what I think.
Doesn't help much with the move, except for the fact that China might deliberately put a stop to it if they are aiming for something big.
@Griffith @WandererUber often think I'd be better off in a monastery tbh