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@Terry This is correct though
The vast majority of the military (especially enlisted) are White men with military family members not random brown foreigners, they are given desk jobs and then a dozen medals and promotions for keeping the printer running
Those guys dying are OUR GUYS, think what you want about iran but the guys getting blown up in the zog wars are the guys who would side with us in a civil war
The vast majority of the military (especially enlisted) are White men with military family members not random brown foreigners, they are given desk jobs and then a dozen medals and promotions for keeping the printer running
Those guys dying are OUR GUYS, think what you want about iran but the guys getting blown up in the zog wars are the guys who would side with us in a civil war
@VidMasterEon I've been through this song and dance before during the global war on terror (G.W.O.T.) I'm not gonna support the troops no matter what.
I don't necessarily wish for them to die but I'm not going to cheer them on when they're killing innocent civilians in order to sake the kike's bloodlust.
I don't necessarily wish for them to die but I'm not going to cheer them on when they're killing innocent civilians in order to sake the kike's bloodlust.
@Terry @VidMasterEon The longer America persists the more of our people will die for the kikes. Pulling the plug on the empire will save more lives in the long run
@suquili @VidMasterEon as crazy as it sounds I think the empire is already over. This was ZOGs last gambit, they bet it all with America attacking Iran and are cashing out.
Theres also a non zero chance ZOG orders a draft because of this. It's unlikely but certainly possible. They can't stop Iranian missiles and I can see them saying "well fuck it" and drafting our asses to go fight over there.
Theres also a non zero chance ZOG orders a draft because of this. It's unlikely but certainly possible. They can't stop Iranian missiles and I can see them saying "well fuck it" and drafting our asses to go fight over there.
@Terry @suquili @VidMasterEon How is this the last gambit when it is a total succes?
@Jens_Rasmussen @Terry @suquili @VidMasterEon jens, you sometimes make me struggle to not tell you to commit self harm.
today is that day.
WHAT "TOTAL SUCCESS" YOU FUCKING NIGGER?
today is that day.
WHAT "TOTAL SUCCESS" YOU FUCKING NIGGER?
@lichelordgodfrey @Terry @suquili @VidMasterEon Iran was bombed and their leadership is in disorder, US allies in the region reaffirms their pro-US and anti-Iran stance after Iran's retaliation, US suffering near-zero losses in the process of the whole thing.
How is that not a US success?
How is that not a US success?
@Jens_Rasmussen @lichelordgodfrey @Terry @suquili @VidMasterEon a success would indicate achieving war goals that are a benefit to your nation. This war has no such goals.
Let's go with your assumptions though
>Iran in disorder
how is this a success for the US? Their empire depends on global shipping and like with Yemen falling to rebels, Iran destabilizing would worsen international trade
>US allies
they do not have allies. They rent bases from third-worlders that sell to the highest bidder, the rest are vassals. Being bombed is a strain on that relationship no matter what they say publicly to save face.
>US suffering from near-zero losses
You know what would've been actually zero? Not attacking
I think evaluating this conflict on the scale of "who wins the fight" is as foolish as it was for Iraq and Afghanistan. The superpower is always playing against itself, not the country it attacks. And this, like the others, will result in a worse position.
All action taken causes American loss of life, strain on equipment and logistics and drives up prices for the domestic economy. There are no benefits to be had that make this worth it.
Let's go with your assumptions though
>Iran in disorder
how is this a success for the US? Their empire depends on global shipping and like with Yemen falling to rebels, Iran destabilizing would worsen international trade
>US allies
they do not have allies. They rent bases from third-worlders that sell to the highest bidder, the rest are vassals. Being bombed is a strain on that relationship no matter what they say publicly to save face.
>US suffering from near-zero losses
You know what would've been actually zero? Not attacking
I think evaluating this conflict on the scale of "who wins the fight" is as foolish as it was for Iraq and Afghanistan. The superpower is always playing against itself, not the country it attacks. And this, like the others, will result in a worse position.
All action taken causes American loss of life, strain on equipment and logistics and drives up prices for the domestic economy. There are no benefits to be had that make this worth it.
@WandererUber @lichelordgodfrey @Terry @suquili @VidMasterEon The USA relies on trade among nations it likes. Harming opponents like Iran or Russia's ability to trade doesn't hinder the USA. As for how it is a success; the goal of the USA is to hinder Iran's ability to be a regional power, and a nation in internal chaos (time will tell how much new Iranian leadership will struggle to take control) cannot effectively project power in the region.
On the topic of allies, anyone who fights alongside you is an ally. Doesn't matter if it is a vassal, a hired mercenary or someone unwillingly pressed into service. This makes middle-eastern nations that comply with the USA allies, although you could argue that Kuwait, with the alleged friendly fire incidents, are really bad at it, or even traitors.
Not attacking Iran was not an option for the American government, because USA's own overlord, Israel, demanded it.
On the topic of allies, anyone who fights alongside you is an ally. Doesn't matter if it is a vassal, a hired mercenary or someone unwillingly pressed into service. This makes middle-eastern nations that comply with the USA allies, although you could argue that Kuwait, with the alleged friendly fire incidents, are really bad at it, or even traitors.
Not attacking Iran was not an option for the American government, because USA's own overlord, Israel, demanded it.
@Jens_Rasmussen @lichelordgodfrey @Terry @suquili @VidMasterEon >trade
it's a disturbance to international shipping routes you retard who said anything about *IRAN'S* trade
>the goal is hindering Iran
that goal of the US is not a benefit to the US this was literally my entire point thank you for not reading what you are responding to
>ignores substance of argument, pilpul about allies
whatever dude
> Israel, demanded it.
And? You said it was a success for America. It's not.
it's a disturbance to international shipping routes you retard who said anything about *IRAN'S* trade
>the goal is hindering Iran
that goal of the US is not a benefit to the US this was literally my entire point thank you for not reading what you are responding to
>ignores substance of argument, pilpul about allies
whatever dude
> Israel, demanded it.
And? You said it was a success for America. It's not.
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