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Wild that literally nobody makes these things anymore.

20 years ago they were everywhere, $100.

Now there's no factories left. All of the high voltage electronics are kind of bespoke and there aren't really supply chains for them anymore, but you COULD make them again.

The real kicker is the tube, the color mask and phosphor coating is a disaster. And what's more, the machines that made them are now archaic. Even if you were able to get one, keeping it maintained and working properly is a skill unto itself. Generally production engineers will always build new lines using only current era (CNC) machines for which the spare parts and knowhow are widely available.

This is an important little lesson that technological capabilities are not to be taken for granted. 20 years is long enough for a technology to really basically just vanish and once it's gone, you would need to go through a whole new R&D process if you ever wanted to bring it back.

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It's not really that we don't know how, there are not secrets. But building the machines that make them, and getting them to the precision level that is required - this is not so easy.

And it's not easy for *anyone*, because the old machines are not really workable anymore. Even if they haven't been scrapped, they're old and worn out and the people who knew how to make them work well are gone.
Agreed on everything except the "by design" part.

Any social upheaval mean the people who have the most are going to lose the most - because of course they will, they have the most to lose.

I think they're thinking that they're going to plan it and ride it out, but they're not smart and they will not. It's all just Weak Men making Hard Times.
Im guessing you have never looked into Tartarian Empire and the mudflood reset

When goverment was 'founded' in the 1780-1800-1900s
it was designed to enslave the goyim
as a control method

No one rejected it because we were all new programmable sheeple
ready for instructions

Real Freedom hasnt been attempted yet
> never looked into Tartarian Empire

Yea, never heard of it. There's a lot of occult archeology though, much of it is obviously real because remains have been found.

> No one rejected it because we were all new programmable sheeple

Ther's the "weak men" again.
No but ages ago, Zed Shaw wrote an essay on that principle. Responsibility and power must be vested with the same person.

But in the case of a country, final responsibility rests with the military men - because that's who, in the realest sense possible, decides how things are going to work.
@cjd @charliebrownau CRT is actually relatively "uncomplicated" technology. Looked up the luminophores that were used there, and they are basic too - doped zinc sulphide and yttria. The method for synthesis of these is usually Pecchini method, which is basically mixing few (commercially available) precursors in crucible and firing it in owen (I call it "idiot-proof", since I tend to work with much more sophisticated chemistry). The electronics part would be more tricky in my opinion, but maybe it's just because that's not my area of expertise. :nahidanerd:
Okay interesting. For the electronics, you would basically cheat and use a computer to drive it, because it can auto-tune everything.

Think like fuel injection vs. carburetor.

The high voltage side is something, but there's only one place that is high voltage, the rest is low, so most of it is not a big deal at all.
@cjd @charliebrownau A skilled electrical engineer shouldn't have much problem getting it done. The most helpful part is that all the knowledge (papers and patents) you need to recreate this technology are available on internet or your average university library, hence it's not that much of a lost technology. Recreating Apollo program would be very tough though, as this is neither something "small" nor relatively uncomplicated, and a lot of technical aspects and know-how was never really publicized and people who had it are gone now. I would say that modern semiconductor industry and low-level programming are at the highest risk of becoming "lost". The first one is pretty much exclusive to few companies in the world and the level of know-how and technical culture required appears unsurmountable. The second is like a language, that less and less people speak, while the accumulating debt makes whole software industry technically bankrupt - in few years either nothing will work at all and we will "live with it", or we will re-write all the things from scratch, undoing last 30 years.
I guess we have a bit the opposite skill sets.

Semiconductors have not too much risk of going away because while the most advanced process node is indeed very very high tech, the older process nodes are much less so, and they are the bulk of chip making.

There's even an open source 130nm process design kit called SkyWater, so a lot of the "secret sauce" is now not secret for that process.

Then low level programming, well, maybe there aren't that many of them, but I'm one, so for me it feels like everybody knows it...

a CRT display is so well documented and understood that the average radio technician from down south of rio grande can repair them within a day from almost any failure short of the motherboard breaking in half, when that happens the repair may take a week of fine soldering all the broken traces, not to mention epoxing the board together, i can attest from first hand experience to that one as back in highschool i had to help a classmate epoxy and solder his CRT board together after helping in accidentally breaking it...

the real engineering challenges are not on the circuitry of any given device, the circuitry of a microwave oven and the circuitry of an electrocardiogram machine are only "really different" in the quality of their building, otherwise the internal components will boil down to voltage transformer, resistors, capacitors, inductors, relays, diodes, LED display components, input switches and ICs, and the only things from that list that can vary wildly are the ICs, which outside of the display driver ICs and the ECG application specific ICs all other ones are either manufactured by texas instruments in guangzhou or are a modified clone from some chinese plant in chengdu, the real engineering challenge are the components that have input/output interaction with the external world, for a microwave oven that is the magnetron while for an ECG machine those components are the "electrode sensors" connected onto the patient, those are a challenge as the manufacturers have managed to build a pseudo-monopoly on the knowledge of how to manufacture and repair those components in a similar manner to the application specific ICs, if the magnetron on your microwave or the non generic made in china ICs on an ECG machine die you have no option but to buy replacements outright, even refurbishing is gatekept by the manufacturer.

@EdBoatConnoisseur @niobleoum @cjd @charliebrownau one thing is repairing/servicing them and another one is manufacturing them. The supply chains, economies of scale and know-how that made CRT manufacturing make sense simply aren't there anymore.

But can confirm these TVs are still being repaired by normal TV technicians instead of redditor amateurs, here and perhaps in the whole third world, them being cheap as fuck and the like. Just like how we still service rod brake roadster bicycles and Volkswagen beetles.

the volkswagen beetles are interesting, at least from what I've seen from mexico is that there are 2 camps, the collection models that everyone tries their hardest to maintain and fix in as original from factory state as possible and go for high prices (usually models from the 50s, 60s and mid 70s) and the cheap beater/mod blank canvass beetles which the mexicans go crazy modding (usually models from the late 70s onwards) into baja bugs and 4x4 pickup trucks to downright memes on wheels.