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Pretty sure even the Pentagon isnt dumb enough to telegraph this so far in advance.

@DC5FAN I doubt the intention is to take kharg island but if you're setting up a feint it should look real

my guess is they're going to try to seize the port of chabahar

Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

That isn't going to be a whole lot easier to do than seizing Kharg Island, just less overtly suicidal, and they'd have to go for a major port area to be able to offload supplies.

@BobsonDugnuttHB@poa.st remote

@wgiwf @DC5FAN there are no good options but being on an island with no cover is one of the worse ones

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I have no doubt the US could achieve a landing somewhere, even if contested and taking serious causalities. My question is how the US plans to hold any landing once achieved.

Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

Amphibious landing that immediately results in urban combat

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Unless you can encircle the city. They did that a lot in Iraq.

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@leespringfield1903@poa.st remote

The Iraqi army was surrendering en-masse to advancing US forces. Nothing about the situation is comparable.

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Iraqi army didn't build its own shit as well.

Was made up of gibs from the Soviets and Uncle Sam during the Iran Iraq War.

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Iran is a near peer. They haven't faced actual combat yet. Lobbing a bunch of missiles isn't actual war. Maybe they are so focused on rockets that their actual Army is like Pakistans. I know literally nothing about their capabilities. I'm pretty sure we'd fuck up Pakistan or Indian troops. Iran hasnt had a war in 45 years. They have no troops with combat experience.

@DC5FAN @leespringfield1903 @wgiwf @BobsonDugnuttHB they don't need to meet us in the field. whatever forces we drop in iran won't be able to do anything about their missiles, while iran can hit those forces with shaheds launched from anywhere inside their borders

or iran can simply ignore them and tell us to pull them out or they'll completely destroy the gulf state oil infrastructure and close the strait permanently

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I'm less convinced that they are some insurmountable force. Who knows.

@skylar@misskey.yandere.love remote

@DC5FAN @BobsonDugnuttHB @leespringfield1903 @wgiwf what's to surmount? we literally cannot effectively attack them, we don't know where their missile bases are. we can't move the infrastructure they threaten. there's no military solution here, not right now

if we spent the next 20 years reindustrializing the US and expanding the US military to 5x its current strength then sure, we could go squash iran

sometimes the enemy is just too strong to defeat at a reasonable cost. we don't have to take every single fight

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@deprecated_ii @BobsonDugnuttHB @DC5FAN @leespringfield1903 @wgiwf there's gotta be something else going on here, like the whole thing's a scheme to profit off manipulating the markets or something
it's just totally implausible to me that the US is incapable of carrying out airstrikes on Iran's infrastructure and industrial capacity until they're stuck standing on the shore trying to skip rocks at passing tankers
has the entire defense budget for the past 50 years been nothing but embezzlement while some guy gets paid 14 bucks an hour to duct tape traffic cones to the end of culvert pipes and paint them like missiles?

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@cjd@pkteerium.xyz remote

@skylar @BobsonDugnuttHB @DC5FAN @leespringfield1903 @wgiwf sure, we could destroy their infrastructure. but they can destroy the infrastructure of the entire gulf and israel in response. we can't stop them doing that. the missiles are already built, and the people who can fire them are already in bunkers we can't locate. the missiles cannot be shot down

we're in a standoff. we're pointing a big gun at them and they're holding a dead man switch that will blow up the world economy if we shoot them

our options are to back off for now, or say fuck it and destroy 30% of the world oil supply in an attack that won't even achieve what greater israel needs out of this war

they simply outplayed us

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If search worked, I'd pull up the first time I commented this is the plot to Dr. Strangelove (it was like day 1)

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@Mammal@shitposter.world remote

@cjd @skylar @BobsonDugnuttHB @DC5FAN @deprecated_ii @leespringfield1903 @wgiwf this is the thread of the night. get in here retard anons. this shit has been going solid for 5 hours already

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