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feld

First person in my social circles who was a senior engineer got laid off and now they came back begging because the new hires are misusing LLMs and breaking things but he was using them properly and shipping fast.

PROBLEM EXISTS BETWEEN KEYBOARD AND CHAIR

stop blaming the LLMs

Gabriel

@gabe@fedi.gabe.rocks remote

@feld from a business standpoint if LLMs don't allow experienced workers to be replaced with disposable serfs than all the money being thrown into the dumpster-fire is a waste.

lain, author of the quixote

@lain@lain.com remote

@gabe @feld what kind of business are you running

Gabriel

@gabe@fedi.gabe.rocks remote

@lain
I'm just saying the 'logic' behind replacing senior engineers with newbs + AI is going to be disastrous in the long run.
@feld Isn't at all wrong that these tools have value, but as he points out that's not really what's driving the stock mania around it.

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lain, author of the quixote

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@gabe @feld there will be replacing of keyboard-to-code engineers, just as hand spining was replaced by the spinning jenny.

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feld

@feld@friedcheese.us remote

@lain @gabe I think we have yet to absorb the reality that young people can't type. They just never learned to touch type.

Keyboards are a slog for them.

They simply don't have the muscle memory because they haven't spent thousands of hours on a real keyboard.

It might as well be considered a disability when compared to older millennials and gen X

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lain, author of the quixote

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@feld @gabe being young is a disability, but at least it gets better with age

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Caleb James DeLisle

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I'm pretty sure the AI value-add is gonna be "High skill workers become more productive", NOT "Low skill workers become high skill".

There's like 30 years of history of companies trying to replace their teams with "Software Factories" (🇮🇳) and unleashing low skill developers on their projects. And said projects inevitably ending up with totally missed deadlines, obscene over-budgets, and broken trash. Remember UML function signature generators? Remember Java? ...