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the dialog systems in rpgs like baldurs gate 3 are completely retarded. it's already retarded in the orignal pen and paper game. so you say a thing, then you roll the dice, and either you 'persuaded' someone or not. you didn't? well, just quickload and try again. it takes agency away from the player in the worst way, so of course it encourages savescumming.

@lain isn't there an ironman mode or something like that to avoid the temptation?

@Arwalk sure, but it's not the savescumming that's the issue (for me), it's the random outcome of in something that's not player skill based. it's just a spreadsheet rolling a die.

@lain @Arwalk adversity is half the roleplay though, fine enough if this is the one and only time you'll ever play it, but it also kills most of the replayability

@i @lain @Arwalk
>but it also kills most of the replayability

I disagree. If you want replayability, make multiple paths for the player to take and they will take different paths on playthroughs if they feel like it. Ideally make them result in different endings so there's actually point in them. It's that easy. You don't need a mechanic where the game fucks you over making the player choose between savescumming or forcefully taking a different path they didn't want.