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It's not the only reason, but it has not helped.
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We are living in the worst possible timeline. Every possible distopia at once.
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It's not technology per se, it's technological post-scarcity creating a Rat Utopia scenario.
> I don't like the panopticon, so we need more government intervention.
Yeah, I didn't really listen to his argument that much because it's just hard to take him seriously.
People didn't stop reproducing because they might get recorded when they're dancing at the club.
Ubiquitous recording is about 20 years old and population decline dates back to ~ roughly, WW2
People didn't stop reproducing because they might get recorded when they're dancing at the club.
Ubiquitous recording is about 20 years old and population decline dates back to ~ roughly, WW2
I just hate when every argument ends in...and we need a body to police that.
Besides... meeting women in bars / clubs was historically not held in high regard. Women who frequented such places were viewed as whores. It's really not the best place to look if you want to start a family.
And he knows dating apps are a scam, so don't use them.
The reason he can't meet women is because he externalizes his own failures, and comes across as insecure. Women can smell it. That's not gonna make the pussy squirt.
I've never had a problem, and I'm a manlet.
Besides... meeting women in bars / clubs was historically not held in high regard. Women who frequented such places were viewed as whores. It's really not the best place to look if you want to start a family.
And he knows dating apps are a scam, so don't use them.
The reason he can't meet women is because he externalizes his own failures, and comes across as insecure. Women can smell it. That's not gonna make the pussy squirt.
I've never had a problem, and I'm a manlet.
> and we need a body to police that.
It's the left-wing version of "if only we just got rid of the Jews"... If complex problems had simple solutions, they'd already be solved.
> I've never had a problem, and I'm a manlet.
Well....... I think you're more integrated into Mexican culture, so you're not as aware of what a fuckery it is to be in American White culture. Everything is controlled by HR Girls who reward victimhood - so women like to victimize themselves and make accusations against men. As a result, White men tend to just hide out. The HR Girls are extremely reticent about ever punishing blacks or Mexicans because they're afraid of the consequences. Also, White American women tend to be just completely compromised, and there's no fixing them because they have power via the HR Girls...
It's the left-wing version of "if only we just got rid of the Jews"... If complex problems had simple solutions, they'd already be solved.
> I've never had a problem, and I'm a manlet.
Well....... I think you're more integrated into Mexican culture, so you're not as aware of what a fuckery it is to be in American White culture. Everything is controlled by HR Girls who reward victimhood - so women like to victimize themselves and make accusations against men. As a result, White men tend to just hide out. The HR Girls are extremely reticent about ever punishing blacks or Mexicans because they're afraid of the consequences. Also, White American women tend to be just completely compromised, and there's no fixing them because they have power via the HR Girls...
I'm actually White af. Grew up in Whiteville California with upper middle class kids (friends parents were doctors, dentists, lawyers, pilots, etc).
Of the friends I had that didn't have kids, the number one reason was that the parents in those families put education and career above all else, then boomered them when they went to college, e.g. while they did help, it was minimal subsistence, and most of these kids didn't know how to survive because they were so sheltered. I mean like they couldn't even boil a fucking hotdog because their parents never let them use the stove.
My parents were different. I didn't come from doctors or lawyers, etc. We were rednecks by comparison to the other people in my neighborhood.
Even my career just kinda happened. I woke up one day after college and was like... I think I'll go to law school. It wasn't groomed into it and I was already with my wife long before then.
Tl;dr I knew I wanted a woman. I didn't know much else to be honest.
Of the friends I had that didn't have kids, the number one reason was that the parents in those families put education and career above all else, then boomered them when they went to college, e.g. while they did help, it was minimal subsistence, and most of these kids didn't know how to survive because they were so sheltered. I mean like they couldn't even boil a fucking hotdog because their parents never let them use the stove.
My parents were different. I didn't come from doctors or lawyers, etc. We were rednecks by comparison to the other people in my neighborhood.
Even my career just kinda happened. I woke up one day after college and was like... I think I'll go to law school. It wasn't groomed into it and I was already with my wife long before then.
Tl;dr I knew I wanted a woman. I didn't know much else to be honest.
Well, that's encouraging. I grew up in Massachusetts and my experience was more indicative of the above. Moved to Europe and never looked back.
I think of Spics as White, so long as they’re not beaners.
The Spanish side of my family are White af. My grandma was basically porcelain. My welsh side are the niggers.
My wife's family varies if you go back a few generations, but her direct line is White af too. Her dad is just a spaniard, a very tall spaniard. 6'5". Her brothers too.
I'm actually darker than her because welsh.
My wife's family varies if you go back a few generations, but her direct line is White af too. Her dad is just a spaniard, a very tall spaniard. 6'5". Her brothers too.
I'm actually darker than her because welsh.
Spanish are as white as any other European, they get a bad reputation because they interbred with the natives in territories they conquered.
Dude at my school: White people won't learn Spanish.
Other dude: There's an entire country of white people that speak Spanish.
First dude: Where?
Second dude: It's called Spain.
Other dude: There's an entire country of white people that speak Spanish.
First dude: Where?
Second dude: It's called Spain.
And culture may be one difference that lead me to find a wife. Spaniards can be very romantic and loyal if treated well. Both men and women.
They can also be easy going if you know what lines not to cross. It hard to piss one off for too long.
I recall one time I was talking to a female second cousin of mine, and she was very much in love, loyal to a fault, was getting married, and getting ready to start a family. Her sister was very much the same. It was quite refreshing to hear given modern women.
The difference may be expectation. They really don't expect much. They live, eat, love, etc. They don't need 6 feet with a 6 figure salary. If you're nice and can house them, and are good in the sack, you could easily get one and have kids. There are a lot around here still.
Note that these are Spanish women, not Mexican etc, so I can't speak to that.
They can also be easy going if you know what lines not to cross. It hard to piss one off for too long.
I recall one time I was talking to a female second cousin of mine, and she was very much in love, loyal to a fault, was getting married, and getting ready to start a family. Her sister was very much the same. It was quite refreshing to hear given modern women.
The difference may be expectation. They really don't expect much. They live, eat, love, etc. They don't need 6 feet with a 6 figure salary. If you're nice and can house them, and are good in the sack, you could easily get one and have kids. There are a lot around here still.
Note that these are Spanish women, not Mexican etc, so I can't speak to that.
That tracks; the stereotypical Latin temperament comes off like “pushy” and “impulsive” to Germanic sensibilities; but individual variance exceeds statistical norms across the board. Choleric extroversion is a valuable contribution to the White Race - even if it’s not my own go-to mode.
I think Calvanism has run it's course and turned the traditionally Calvanist places (e.g. Massachusetts) into behavioral sinks.
This happened to the Quakers like in the 1800s, they stopped breeding and basically just died out.
To spaniards, anglos come off as too rule oriented. Spaniards tend to be far more situation minded. Rules are merely guidelines to the spic, there's always exceptions, and I mean pretty much always. Rules are therefore more malleable and are tailored to fit the situation.
That's why I spend most of my life being an anti authoritarian lawyer. I hate law, i hate rules, and do a lot of civil defense. People and relationships, community, hand shakes and trust, trump law imo. I know in the end it's a losing battle, but I want to protect what's left of the old ways for as long as I can.
On a side note, divorce is not even a thing on my spanish side. Everyone married once and stayed married for life. It's just what we do.
That's why I spend most of my life being an anti authoritarian lawyer. I hate law, i hate rules, and do a lot of civil defense. People and relationships, community, hand shakes and trust, trump law imo. I know in the end it's a losing battle, but I want to protect what's left of the old ways for as long as I can.
On a side note, divorce is not even a thing on my spanish side. Everyone married once and stayed married for life. It's just what we do.
> hand shakes and trust, trump law imo. I know in the end it's a losing battle
I don't see it as losing at all.
Reputation and trust can be abused - so law emerges.
Law can be abused (malicious litigation, loophole abuse, spirit v. letter) and so reputation emerges again.
IMO it's a back and forth dialogue without any real end...
I don't see it as losing at all.
Reputation and trust can be abused - so law emerges.
Law can be abused (malicious litigation, loophole abuse, spirit v. letter) and so reputation emerges again.
IMO it's a back and forth dialogue without any real end...
In my perspective, it looks like a White American Honor Culture is going to have to emerge from all this whatever-it-is.
You have to trust. Community / history can help determine who to trust. You also have to understand that good people in whom you put trust can fail even with best efforts. But everyone has to at least pull weight, success or failure. Nonetheless, we never have complete control and nothing is guaranteed.
Trust, but verify; otherwise it's just blind faith.
This is the law of the land in my industry; newbs get over taking it personally right quick-like
You're starting to sound like my favorite Florida 3D Printing Gun Rights Lawyer Guy (who hates gun rights lobbying groups)
Gun rights lobbying groups, like medical rights lobbying groups, focus on the wrong arguments and end up creating bodies of law that look like wins, but actually severely limit real change in the long term, e.g. making gun rights about self-defense or hunting / sport is a boon. It allows courts to limit those rights as narrowly as possible in light of argued purposes.
I see the Constitution (especially the bill of rights) as a kind of super-law, which sets the parameters of what can be done with laws.
I see as the fatal flaw of Constitutions, in general, is that they depend entirely upon people in positions of leadership to remain faithful to the principles set forth therein, in order to function meaningfully at all. It can’t really enforce itself.
I'm certainly no legal expert, but I view the flaw in any legal framework in how people see law itself, with regard to whether a law is to be used as a permission or a prohibition regardless of how the law is written. Just look at the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution: many interpret it as permission for citizens to have arms, where others (rightfully) see it as a prohibition of the government from restricting ownership of arms. Spread the misapplication of logic out to the entirety of law and you start running into some super wacky legal interpretations of laws that should never have existed to begin with.
My dad had a bit of Welsh... maybe that's why his grandma was kinda nigger-y 🤔
@GoyGirl
I thought the picts were supposed to be the niggers of Briton?
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Her grandma stole my penny farthing. 😤
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> People didn't stop reproducing because they might get recorded when they're dancing at the club.
That is literally the reason bruh.
Think about it. In order to open up and flirt, you need to push boundries in a socially unacceptable way. That is the entire point. To get to a point, where social norms no longer apply between the two of you.
Yet instead, now we live in a world, where there is no safe place to attempt crossing that line, and punishment for such a failure is jail and complete social condemnation.
Good luck asshole.
It's exactly what causes the failure of the mouse utopia.
Even mice need a little privacy for courtship and mating. When there are other mice literally everywhere, they can't breed. And the antisocial behavior of overcrowded mice leaves an imprint which makes them 'autistic' even as the population declines. Finally none of them are able to breed, and the colony dies out.
Even mice need a little privacy for courtship and mating. When there are other mice literally everywhere, they can't breed. And the antisocial behavior of overcrowded mice leaves an imprint which makes them 'autistic' even as the population declines. Finally none of them are able to breed, and the colony dies out.
>Even mice need a little privacy for courtship and mating. When there are other mice literally everywhere, they can't breed.
Fact check: True
Fact check: True
They just obviously don't have enough kids running around yet. "Door is opening!" 😆🫣
Just give them a pair of scissors to play with and lock the door like a real parent. 🙄
I got one of those quirky "barn doors" for our room & still no lock. My 6-y.o. would bust it in 5 sec flat, anyhow. Think The Shining, but it's all good... keeping it legal still.
@GoyGirl
8 1/2 fucking years and Thing 2 is bursting into the bedroom every night without fail. You have to time sex just after they've gone to sleep as that first couple of hours is the only garunteed privacy. But they won't fall asleep without someone sitting by their bed for an hour.
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Thing 2, lol 🤣 My oldest needed me to be touching him until he was over 5 to sleep... 🙄
Thing 3 gets thrown in crib: "see ya, buddy!" Hallelujah. Thing 4 still in bed with me, though. Last one, only girl. Awww.
Thing 3 gets thrown in crib: "see ya, buddy!" Hallelujah. Thing 4 still in bed with me, though. Last one, only girl. Awww.
#1 (girl) was called Little Monster and also Strong Independent Baby, now she's almost 4 so we just mostly call her by name
#2 (boy) is Garfield, he's just past 1 and still doesn't crawl, he just rolls everywhere
#2 (boy) is Garfield, he's just past 1 and still doesn't crawl, he just rolls everywhere
@GoyGirl
Yeah number 3 takes himself to bed. I've found him several times just passed out on the lounge room floor too. Plays by himself too. The kind of kid that makes you want to have a 4th.
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Yeah... The problem is, that the popular interpretation is, that "they're not breeding, because they are just too happy with their life."
The word "utopia" is what causes this insanity.
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Meanwhile, you have experiments like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park that demonstrate, that even things like drug use are used mostly as a coping mechanism when living conditions are already so awful, you don't want to live in this world anymore.
I wish people made this experiment famous instead. Although, people are so dumb, they would misinterpret it too -_-
Okay so your contention is that it's technology that is causing population collapse, then explain this:
> Lisp was created by John McCarthy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in 1958
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If you claim, it's caused by technology, how do you explain this?
Shows literally a graph of falling birth rates following release of destructive technology.
Not all technology is released by Apple you know.
You're trying too hard to make the data fit your narrative and you know it's not going well.
In around 18 BC, Emperor Augustus imposed the Julian Marriage Laws.
> Extravagance and adultery were widespread. Among the upper classes, marriage was increasingly infrequent and, many couples who did marry failed to produce offspring.
So I guess you will tell us that this too was the cause of technology?
In around 18 BC, Emperor Augustus imposed the Julian Marriage Laws.
> Extravagance and adultery were widespread. Among the upper classes, marriage was increasingly infrequent and, many couples who did marry failed to produce offspring.
So I guess you will tell us that this too was the cause of technology?
Lisp is a better explanation.
Obviously it was the invention of Betamax video tape.