Egregoros · Phoenix Framework

@cjd I'm less than a year into my venture into Linux but I haven't encountered any bugs yet, although it could be I'm too inexperienced to recognize them as such 🙃 Also I don't do anything advanced, mostly playing around with various tools in the terminal. Like today I've been using grep to filter some data from one .csv to another and then calculate something in the new file using sc-im, so much more fun than Excel.

Caleb James DeLisle

@cjd@pkteerium.xyz remote

My recollection of Ubuntu is having troubles in the first 30 minutes of setting it up, and then realizing that the "troubles" are not really user error, but rather that the default ubuntu apps (gnome stuff) just have bugs, like save button doesn't save, that type of stuff.

pistolero

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@cjd Ubuntu's default partition setup allocates a 512MB /boot. You tell it "do what you want with the disk" and it'll do that. Then by default it turns on unattended-upgrades. Then it trickles new kernels to /boot but does not remove the old ones and updates the bootloader to boot the new kernel by default, which apparently occurs whether or not /boot is full. Then eventually the user reboots the machine. There are two options on the screen: new kernel, or new kernel plus safe mode. But the kernel it is configured to use does not represent a kernel that is actually on the disk, so it refuses to boot. Ubuntu renders itself impossible to boot. Ubuntu commits suicide if you don't intervene.

I do not know for certain whether this problem persists to the present day but it did occur for years. I don't know who is in charge of QA at Canonical but apparently no one is in charge of telling Ubuntu not to commit suicide.

erős pista

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@p @cjd Yeah. It's still there if you let it create /boot/. If you aren't constantly `apt-get --purge remove` old kernel and module packages it murders itself.

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pistolero

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@pista @cjd FFS, man. I start to feel like some of these distros are controlled opposition.

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Hoss "Sneed (Formerly Chuck)” Delgado

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Remember when Canonical hired a monster who was convicted of raping his own sister, admitted they were informed of his sex offender status, and then defended the hiring decision after the public found out because he'd "served his debt to society"? Quite the fascinating ethical framework these "people" have.

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Caleb James DeLisle

@cjd@pkteerium.xyz remote

Well look at firefox for instance, where do they get all of their money from? Google (Chrome)... It gets a little worse every year and you never hear about Google having any negative opinions about that.

It doesn't take a massive amount of imagination to suppose that perhaps possibly they're doing exactly what they're supposed to do.