Egregoros · Phoenix Framework

@cjd I'm less than a year into my venture into Linux but I haven't encountered any bugs yet, although it could be I'm too inexperienced to recognize them as such 🙃 Also I don't do anything advanced, mostly playing around with various tools in the terminal. Like today I've been using grep to filter some data from one .csv to another and then calculate something in the new file using sc-im, so much more fun than Excel.

Caleb James DeLisle

@cjd@pkteerium.xyz remote

My recollection of Ubuntu is having troubles in the first 30 minutes of setting it up, and then realizing that the "troubles" are not really user error, but rather that the default ubuntu apps (gnome stuff) just have bugs, like save button doesn't save, that type of stuff.

pistolero

@p@fsebugoutzone.org remote

@cjd Ubuntu's default partition setup allocates a 512MB /boot. You tell it "do what you want with the disk" and it'll do that. Then by default it turns on unattended-upgrades. Then it trickles new kernels to /boot but does not remove the old ones and updates the bootloader to boot the new kernel by default, which apparently occurs whether or not /boot is full. Then eventually the user reboots the machine. There are two options on the screen: new kernel, or new kernel plus safe mode. But the kernel it is configured to use does not represent a kernel that is actually on the disk, so it refuses to boot. Ubuntu renders itself impossible to boot. Ubuntu commits suicide if you don't intervene.

I do not know for certain whether this problem persists to the present day but it did occur for years. I don't know who is in charge of QA at Canonical but apparently no one is in charge of telling Ubuntu not to commit suicide.

@mint@ryona.agency remote

@p @cjd Related rant from one of our boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztOWILNIsjA

Phantasm (away)

@phnt@fluffytail.org remote

@mint @p @cjd The comments are classic Loonix discourse as well...
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pistolero

@p@fsebugoutzone.org remote

@phnt @mint @cjd Wait, *was* it a beta release? If it was a beta release, that is kind of unsurprising.

Phantasm (away)

@phnt@fluffytail.org remote

@p @cjd @mint It was a beta release like 2 weeks before the actual release date. You would think that 2 weeks before the release you would at least be able to install it.

Replying to @phnt@fluffytail.org

pistolero

@p@fsebugoutzone.org remote

@phnt @cjd @mint

> It was a beta release like 2 weeks before the actual release date.

Okay, yeah, a release candidate should not have a broken installer.

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