It's very possible that the original claim about the legos isn't true, it could be a complicated legal issue that the original people don't fully understand or they are misrepresenting the agreement, but the guy is on video saying if he's sued (which is the perfect, appropriate way of resolving this) that he'll just drag it out so long that it won't be worth it anymore. So, regardless of the merits of the original claim, he himself made "doing it the right way" impossible and brought this on himself. the reckless ben guy himself did a bunch of dumb stuff, some of it illegal, which isn't okay, but that is now not the point lol
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@vriska mormons have very high ingroup affinity but people have been saying this but I don't even know if they're all mormons or not.
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29@sun they are! Ageha was watching a video about it from this ex Mormon she watches on YouTube the other day
@vriska I have been watching the videos for any mormon shibboleths, I'm familiar with all of them, haven't heard any yet which makes me skeptical, there's a way they would be talking to tip off the other person, but it's possible.
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When my brother became a contractor he went down to SLC to do construction prior to the 2002 Winter Olympics since there was a big housing boom going on. He got ruthlessly screwed over with people who kept promising to pay him later, so he would go onto another job to try and make money and keep the ball rolling. Eventually he couldn't get anyone to pay, tried to get the police involved, the police sided with the locals and said there was no proof he did any work and threatened to arrest him if he didn't leave the city. Completely fucked my brothers life up, put him tens of thousands of dollars into debt, and was the trigger point that pushed him over the edge, into drugs, and destroyed his life.
The Mormons are never to be trusted.
When my brother became a contractor he went down to SLC to do construction prior to the 2002 Winter Olympics since there was a big housing boom going on. He got ruthlessly screwed over with people who kept promising to pay him later, so he would go onto another job to try and make money and keep the ball rolling. Eventually he couldn't get anyone to pay, tried to get the police involved, the police sided with the locals and said there was no proof he did any work and threatened to arrest him if he didn't leave the city. Completely fucked my brothers life up, put him tens of thousands of dollars into debt, and was the trigger point that pushed him over the edge, into drugs, and destroyed his life.
The Mormons are never to be trusted.
@CrayonEater @vriska it happens I am just saying I haven't seen the specific things I would need to see to get tipped off that's what's happening here.
@technolyze @vriska right now the biggest hint of collusion I've heard is the airbnb owner told cops they "overheard the occupants talking about stealing legos" like, this definitely sounds like a lie, and why would they do this for people they have no connection to. unless they do have a connection!
@technolyze @vriska it's all very possible, I am just waiting for anything at all that give me a hint they're doing that, there's things I could see, even like calling each other "brother" or something.
@technolyze @vriska I did confirm that at least the owner guy is mormon and ben was playing that angle to try to get information out of him. honestly the more I see this ben guy is actually a harasser to a significant degree, he doesn't show everything on video that he does to the people. but like, the papers were real, the lawsuit was real, and the cops colluded to keep the valid papers from being served, fry them
@technolyze @vriska and to be fair, I don't think it's uncommon in any way for a person serving papers to have to try to trick the person to serve the papers. it's just, a common thing that exists
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I saw one report that he claimed to be a bishop from a nonexistent ward whilst trying to serve papers
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I saw one report that he claimed to be a bishop from a nonexistent ward whilst trying to serve papers
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@Leyonhjelm @technolyze @vriska that is a claim by the police in one of the court documents (I believe it though)
@sun @vriska @Leyonhjelm I mean seeing the videos myself they never have any one claim they are a bishop, they have a Mormon from a near by ward come by and explain that they just want to have a good faith conversation about the legos, don’t believe the person in question was a fake Mormon or mentioned a fake bishop. They minifigs guy is pretty blatant liar, he lies about the court case being real, lies about the woman being a processor, this is all caught on camera.
@technolyze @vriska @Leyonhjelm I know, I am just trying to find concrete evidence of one specific claim. the minifigs guy is clearly scum and none of this would be happening if he just 1. didn't keep the legos and 2. accepted the serving papers and 3. didn't repeatedly lie to everyone about everything.
@sun @vriska @Leyonhjelm there’s body cam footage released of a lot of the interactions as well as some leaked audio redactions , reckless Ben himself has been pretty good about putting out updates.
@technolyze @vriska @Leyonhjelm I'm watching them all. there's a lot of clear evidence they're illegally fucking with him. but also he isn't ever putting out anything that he's done that put him in a bad light
@sun @vriska @Leyonhjelm true, but this just feels so … common. Like we all know small town police operate like this deep down. He would be fucked if he didn’t have a huge platform. I mean he was an annoying dick YouTuber in that sense but he annoyed a dick as far as I can tell.
@technolyze @vriska @Leyonhjelm absolutely, I have direct knowledge of this (incidentally, the small town police, non-mormon, fucking over someone that happened to be mormon)
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Here is the Farms thread if you want to keep up with the deep digging
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/reckless-ben-youtuber-ben-schneider-vs-bricks-and-minifigs-200k-in-stolen-lego-swatting-by-mormon-police-mexico-arrest-avoidance.246060/
Here is the Farms thread if you want to keep up with the deep digging
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/reckless-ben-youtuber-ben-schneider-vs-bricks-and-minifigs-200k-in-stolen-lego-swatting-by-mormon-police-mexico-arrest-avoidance.246060/
@CrayonEater @vriska @Leyonhjelm @sun wait he fled the country holy shit lmao, I did not hear that. I thought he made bail and everything didn’t know they were even seeking arrest.
@technolyze @CrayonEater @vriska @Leyonhjelm I think this ben guy is actually stupid and does a lot of things he should not be doing
@sun @CrayonEater @vriska @Leyonhjelm he doesn’t have a warrant out based on the release from American fork, so I’m not sure there is any fleeing.
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The Police Chief had previously stated in a video press release that Josh the B&M guy had threatened to shoot Ben on a call with the police, and Ben has every reason to believe that the Kaiser police are in cohoots with with Josh.
The Police Chief had previously stated in a video press release that Josh the B&M guy had threatened to shoot Ben on a call with the police, and Ben has every reason to believe that the Kaiser police are in cohoots with with Josh.
@sun @CrayonEater @vriska @Leyonhjelm @technolyze It's clear he hasn't had a big run in with the law enforcement yet. Like talking to cops and interrogators without a lawyer is almost always a huge mistake.