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@npc @teto @saatja
arch is simple as fuck because there are 50 different ways to automate setup to get a working desktop experience (spinoff distros like cachy or endeavor, complex dotfiles like omarchy or hyde, etc)
this is why there is currently a lot of weird panic about AUR - lots of people that shouldn't be using DIY distros apparently have been, and they don't know what to do when something goes sideways

this is also very apparent in void linux's subreddit, btw, lmao. the aur thing and the systemd thing has pushed a lot of fucking retards in void's direction and its very obvious that there is now a large (or loud, if not large) subset of linux user that thinks he knows how things work because he's been able to get other people to do the setup for him, and is completely lost when he has to do anything himself.

anyway rolling release isn't bad for a desktop experience, teto, you're just gay
@mirq @teto @npc @saatja
> arch is simple as fuck because there are 50 different ways to automate setup to get a working desktop experience
I’ll add that even manual installation is very easy because the wiki has a step-by-step guide, and the installation process is kinda involved but not hard or complicated. It does make a lot of people feel like experts though, and most of the complaints about arch breaking randomly come from them running pacman -Sy, force deleting packages or blindly following instructions from the forum from 10 years ago.

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@mirq @teto @Inginsub @npc @saatja
>even though the wiki is pretty explicit about not doing that, for example

As someone that used to write docs to be very explicit about what to do and very easy to follow, nobody reads the docs. It's actually the inverse usually. The more easy to follow and better in quality in general your docs are, the more questions answered in the docs you'll get as less people read them.