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> weren't you the guy who said you didn't do distro evangelism?

Yes.

> Being that strongly against a distro and trying to dissuade people who use it is a form of evangelism too.

That's kind of ridiculous to say: having an opinion informed by experience is not the same as trying to dissuade them from picking a box with one name on it and switching to a box with another name on it. Being a hacker, I would like people to not embarrass the computer.

The Nix guys are misguided; I don't care if he uses the distro, but it is a bad distro. Do you understand the difference between these statements? I don't care if someone decides to start using Red Star Linux, right? (Although that's weird enough that I might take an interest in exactly what he *is* doing.) But if they say it's more secure, I'll argue that point. I'll say what I prefer, you know, if someone says "Oh, I wonder about $x" then I will fill in the blanks if I can. Those are more interesting discussions than "$x bad, $y good" versus "$y bad, $x good". There are tradeoffs and some things that you do with the computer are easy to categorize as retarded; I'd rather talk about tradeoffs. Jojo installed Ubuntu and had questions about how to make Ubuntu do something; I forget what, because 80 people hopped into the thread to tell him to switch to Gentoo or Arch or Debian or Devuan and the goddamn idiot evangelism flooded in and I don't think that helped Jojo learn how to operate his computer.

https://www.perl.com/pub/2000/12/advocacy.html/ There is some irony that this article, "Why I Hate Advocacy", which explains what I am doing better than I have, and which includes a chunk about the mechanics of NIH retardation, was met with "Pfff, it's on the Perl website."

> I think the root of the problem is that we tend to organize ourselves into tribes. Then people in the tribe are our friends, and people outside are our enemies. I think it happens like this: Someone uses Perl, and likes it, and then they use it some more. But then something strange happens. They start to identify themselves with Perl, as if Perl were part of their body, or vice versa. They're part of the Big Perl Tribe. They want other people to join the Tribe. If they meet someone who doesn't like Perl, it's an insult to the Tribe and a personal affront to them.

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> That's kind of ridiculous to say: having an opinion informed by experience is not the same as trying to dissuade them from picking a box with one name on it and switching to a box with another name on it. Being a hacker, I would like people to not embarrass the computer

Nah, when you get too insistent on it, it borders on trying to dissuade.
It's like in the Jojo thread, with people saying that Ubuntu is bad. Except they also told about an alternative to it, which is an even more aggressive form of evangelism.
However, I also have noticed you tend to bring up CRUX whenever people talk about using NixOS...

@Suzu @amerika @bajax @ceooffuggy @f0x @hakui @ins0mniak @j @mrsaturday @phnt @pwm @romin @sicp @sun @tsubo That is some Internet-ass bullshit, man.

If you can't read that article or even the single quoted paragraph and you cannot identify the difference between these two conversations, then I do not know how to help you:

$x bad, $y good!
[neofetch screenshot with anime girl background behind transparent terminal windows]
$y bad, $x good!
No, $x bad, $y good!
No, $y bad, $x good!
Did that guy just say $x bad?
>implying $y good
I have so many insults.




Here's what I think about this. These are tradeoffs, I picked this side.
You can get around that by doing this.
I tried that but it broke this.
I don't use that so I didn't notice that it was broken.
This has been a valuable exchange of information and not internet-ass bullshit.

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> fastfetch

Oh, dear god, is there another? Are...are people arguing about neofetch versus fastfetch?

> what do you have against my fashionable fastfetch screenshots?

I can come up with a million things if I gotta, I was just noting that this is the hallmark of the useless distro argument. But while we're here and literally asking for it, I will jump in with both feet, however ill-advised that this is. PREPARE TO BY CYBERBULLIED

* 16-color terminal but 6 of them are duplicates
* "Uptime: 9 hours, 18 mins" NGMI
* For that matter, why do they write "9 hours, 18 mins" like it was important to abbreviate "minutes" but they couldn't just write "0d9h18m" or "09:18" or something.
* "Shell: fish"
* Wayland
* Anti-aliased font
* btrfs
alexa_mom.png
fuck-your-mom.jpg
hot-moms.jpg
house-gamer-moment.jpg
mom-gamer.jpeg
mommy_cyberbullying.jpg