No one has ever actually explained to me why we should keep teaching cursive any more than we should keep teaching Gregg shorthand
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@RustyCrab there are multiple mechanical and cognitive benefits to caring about handwriting. Faster hand writing, better dexterity, mental clarity, etcetera.
@f0x working on paper is good but I'm not convinced cursive brings enough benefit to keep up the time sink of maintaining it
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@RustyCrab @f0x I'm being completely honest when I say it's exactly the reverse for me, writing print is physically painful to me beyond one or two lines
@benis_redux @RustyCrab it's because your ability atrophied, and the answer to poor posture isn't sitting odd, so.. why would abstaining from writing be the answer here?
@f0x @benis_redux I wonder what the tipping point for saving time for me would be because I do work on paper but its more often drawing than writing essays. Would probably take several years to get back the time
Cursive is just formalized handwriting slop. It is designed for the sole purpose of not having to expend the effort of lifting a pen 1mm off the paper between letters, and in the process makes the output completely inscrutable to anyone familiar with only the standard alphabet. Mury Rothbard's last manuscript couldn't be published because he hadn't finished typing it from his chicken-scratch scrawl and nobody else in the world who cares to try could decipher it until some savant (or, who can say, perhaps a charlatan) picked it up a quarter-century later and said he could read it fine. What kind of writing system is that? You've been played for absolute fools.
@f0x @RustyCrab writing *print*, I only write cursive if I can help it
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is that what they called it?? They came up with a fancy acronym, "ESW" english standard writing when i went through learning how to write.
is that what they called it?? They came up with a fancy acronym, "ESW" english standard writing when i went through learning how to write.
@f0x @benis_redux @RustyCrab
>They came up with a fancy acronym, "ESW" english standard writing when i went through learning how to write.
With how they completely fucked up math learning twice, I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked up learning cursive as well. Probably with some completely dumb methods. Just like "new math" and "common core".
>They came up with a fancy acronym, "ESW" english standard writing when i went through learning how to write.
With how they completely fucked up math learning twice, I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked up learning cursive as well. Probably with some completely dumb methods. Just like "new math" and "common core".
@benis_redux @RustyCrab @f0x For me not writing cursive on a paper is physically painful after ~20 minutes. Probably from all the unnatural hand movements and lifting. Only exception is math, but that is mostly numbers and looks weird with variables written in cursive anyway.
@RustyCrab @f0x it's not important that you keep doing it as an adult, though it wouldn't hurt. it's important that children do it, or some equivalent replacement, and what's never implemented when this stuff is abandoned is the replacement
traditional curriculum keeps getting thrown out as outdated and useless and what are they doing with that time instead? they park kids in front of tablets so the teacher can fuck off on reddit, and then everyone is shocked that the next crop of adults is weak, uncoordinated, can't focus on anything, can't read a damn clock, doesn't know what anything is
traditional curriculum keeps getting thrown out as outdated and useless and what are they doing with that time instead? they park kids in front of tablets so the teacher can fuck off on reddit, and then everyone is shocked that the next crop of adults is weak, uncoordinated, can't focus on anything, can't read a damn clock, doesn't know what anything is