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2Basically what JPM is saying is that once Countries That Matter start to have oil troubles, they're going to say "Look, we need this problem solved, and whoever is making trouble for getting it solved, you're gonna start losing family members in Nasty Accidents, fix this right now."
Problem is that the countries that really matter (China, Iran, Russia) may have differing opinions on the matter, and not with each other
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17Russia doesn't really care about oil price because they're a net producer.
China will basically threaten to sic North Korea on South Korea if they are being strangled.
I expect the most sneaky and clever shenanigans will come out of Europe, because they're fairly expert at finding pressure points and exploiting them. Perhaps they will push toward launching a UN investigation into the Palestinian Genocide or something like that.
Actually that implies that they benefit from the strait being closed, since it increases the value of their product
Although, I think I remember Euros getting on their high horse and boycotting Russia when the Ukraine invasion started. I haven't been keeping up on that front, they've surely eaten a lot of crow by this point.
Euros are the world premier masters of duplicity. They invented geopolitics after all. So what they say in public and what they do in private are two entirely different things...
except we're artificially lower the price of our oil and demand is spiking thus still driving up prices, becuase people are filling up on our cheap oil and using it overseas
point is, higher priced oil in a "free" market means higher prices for everyone
becuase anyone who has lower prices will have increased demand for their oil thus pushing it back up.
if we nationalized our oil industry and cut off exports, we could control the domestic price, but we don't do that becuase that's communist or something.
If America is like "lol you're on your own bitch", these countries are going to go to China and say "okay, is there a deal we can make?" and if that happens, then the American empire is over.
It probably is anyway, but people are pretending that it's not.
It's probably been over for a while, we've been running on the fumes of legitimacy that we haven't actually had since around the time of the invasion of Iraq. Our military and perception as a superpower have only been eroding since then.
Iran will open the straits no problem. And with it the first tollbooth. The second tollbooth will be for the internet cables there.
The problem is China is a big buyer of oil from Iran, they may just pivot to shipping by land while the west burns itself down. It'd be nice is someone got the clown and his master though.
They're starting the plan to make a pipeline in the Caspian. Russia will then ship it china. Russia and iran can lick down the Caspian easy.
Iran took its hit already by curbing production. That deadline was a while ago (They ran out of places to put oil).
So turns out China was prepared for this via massive stores of oil and diversifying away from oil. Almost like it was planned. The west will start having food problems and fuel problems before China does and then the hard sell to hungry people "You must be cold and hungry because Israel wants it that way. Now be silent lest we call you all anti semite"
China's Electric Vehicle gambit was pure brilliance, and it is going to pay them massive dividends.
And when 5,736,546,235,252,357 poos don't have enough fuel to even cook the slop they call food, they get downright irritable. The ones who are favoring them still need them to play their role.