Egregoros

18h

@phnt GNU Linux-libre

Phantasm

18h

@Suiseiseki
>GNUslop Linux-Libre
>not governed by retards
You clearly didn't read my post

March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

18h

@phnt @Suiseiseki if you think gnu is slop, then you shouldn't have ever so much as considered a gnu - hurd + linux distribution viable in the first place, since they all use a slop shell, a slop libc implementation, slop core utilities, a slop c compiler, a slop build system, and dozens upon dozens, if not hundreds, of other slop programs all under a slop license.

Phantasm

18h

@HatkeshiatorTND @Suiseiseki Correct, that's why I'm never using more of that slop than absolutely necessary. The perfect Linux system is one without GNU.

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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

18h

@phnt @Suiseiseki that can't exist, because linux itself is distributed under the gnu general public license (version 2.0-only)

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Phantasm

18h

@HatkeshiatorTND @Suiseiseki Couldn't care less about the license. I have sources, I will do whatever I want with them and that's all I care about.

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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

17h

@phnt @Suiseiseki rm license.txt is not, unfortunately, a legally recognized action. in the eyes of the state -- which can and will make your life hell, up to and includong tormenting your loved ones -- software licenses matter and you can be in violation of them. if you somehow manage to patch linux such that it can be built with `busybox ls linux/src/* | busybox sort -n | busybox xargs busybox cat | tcc -I/usr/include/musl -L/usr/lib/musl` (which would be cauchy as an engineering project even if the kernel itself sucked as a result) you would still need to release it under the gnu general public license version 2.0-only or be prepared to recieve a very not-rm-able summons.

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Phantasm

17h

@HatkeshiatorTND @Suiseiseki Again, I can't care less about your GeePeeL autism.

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GNU/翠星石

18h

@HatkeshiatorTND @phnt *Partially distributed.

I can envision a future where Linux is 100% proprietary software - we're already 51% there.

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monkyyy

18h

Whats the difference? do you not believe in a one drop rule?

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GNU/翠星石

17h

@monkyyy @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt One drop of proprietary software is easy to excise - you just delete it and write the 5 line free software replacement and the problem is solved permanently.

Although there is a serious problem when >50% of the program is proprietary software.

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monkyyy

17h

Its nice your getting more moderate

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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

17h

@monkyyy @phnt @Suiseiseki "you hate eating arsenic? with a passion, you say? would you even say that about a bottle of arsenic that comes with food?"
"yes, but such is simple to ignore or throw in the bin."
"well, at least you're moderate."
???

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monkyyy

17h

"the terrorist is going around poising food"
"the bottle is empty, therefore its safe-ish"
"what do you mean? surely we shouldn't eat any food even if its only one drop of poison"
"just eat around where the poison was :)"

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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

17h

@monkyyy @phnt @Suiseiseki poison wasn't the most literal analogy. think of it like a lego tower, but some bricks contain significant doses of caesium or plutonium or similar and will cause cancer after some exposure. if only two bricks are this way, you can simply discqrd them and replace them with normal bricks. compare that to if 51% of the bricks are proprietary cancer causing bricks, where the problem is much bleaker.

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monkyyy

17h

I find the gnu/mit debate completely absurd, I just publish all code without a drop of legalese and wouldnt listen if I wanted to mix two libs with different licences I just would, whatever. I dont have a horse in the race, I just like the vitalism of anger and open extremism.

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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

17h

@monkyyy @phnt @Suiseiseki https://choosealicense.com/no-permission/

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monkyyy

@histoire3@shota.house remote

17h

> I dont care about legalese
>> links 6 paragraphs of legalese on a legalese propaganda website
I dont like doctors, so I had a gap of I think 7 years in between getting my appendix removed and a check up. I did not go 4 times a year and be grumpy at the doctor or whatever.

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isutowaru

17h

@HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social @monkyyy@poa.st @phnt@fluffytail.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com

Unlicense

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pettanko ✝️

@pettanko@tsundere.love remote

16h

@histoire3 @Suiseiseki @phnt @monkyyy @HatkeshiatorTND all rights reserved

bow to my arbitrary will

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Phantasm

16h

@histoire3 @Suiseiseki @monkyyy @HatkeshiatorTND 0BSD. The true freedom enthusiasts license.

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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

16h

@phnt @Suiseiseki @monkyyy @histoire3 minix is in your management engine and bsd is on your macbook, all because they used a cuck license.
do not license your programs without terms. at least make it slightly expensive for your (((enemy))) to try and wield the code you wrote against everything you stand for.

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Phantasm

16h

@HatkeshiatorTND @Suiseiseki @monkyyy @histoire3 I don't care who uses my code and what they do with. I don't have a Napoleon syndrome and have no need to control others. Such cannot be said about those simping for GNU/FSF.

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GNU/翠星石

@Ree@shitposter.world remote

17h

@monkyyy @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt I've never been more extreme.

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Ree ⚧️💚

16h

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt @monkyyy shut up your not helping anybody dude. Fuck free software,fuck gnu and fuck your hero Richard stallmen also fsf.

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Phantasm

16h

@Ree @HatkeshiatorTND @Suiseiseki @monkyyy Finally a reply I can get behind.

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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

@Ree@shitposter.world remote

16h

@Ree @phnt @Suiseiseki @monkyyy dilate.

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Ree ⚧️💚

16h

@HatkeshiatorTND @phnt @Suiseiseki @monkyyy you to the guy has Linux problems just saying install freetard things isn't helping

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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

@voltrina@social.freedombits.org remote

16h

@Ree @phnt @Suiseiseki @monkyyy holy esl

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♡ miss olivia ♡

16h

@HatkeshiatorTND @phnt @Suiseiseki @monkyyy @Ree

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dav1d

@dps910@social.freedombits.org remote

16h

@Ree @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt @Suiseiseki @monkyyy i <3 free software

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Phantasm

@sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party remote

16h

@dps910 @HatkeshiatorTND @Suiseiseki @monkyyy @Ree
i-love-torrents.jpg

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Pawlicker

17h

@HatkeshiatorTND @phnt @Suiseiseki You don't need GNU userland for Linux though. Do you think Google does that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toybox

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GNU/翠星石

@sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party remote

17h

@sendpaws @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt You're clueless.

You need countless GNU programs if you want to merely compile Linux to use it.

Coreutils is only one package that is a small fraction of the userland and toybox is as useful as a box of toys and why play with toys, when you there's the real GNU coreutils?

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Pawlicker

17h

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt toybox is a clone of busybox. Ubuntu is moving to uutils for some reason which is MIT licensed. Many illumos distros have gnu stuff in the userland, but illumos-gate is the old Solaris 10 userland under CDDL. BSD is BSD and they reject anything GPL after V3.

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GNU/翠星石

@sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party remote

17h

@sendpaws @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt Coreutils is only one package - it is only a small fraction of the system.

Ubuntu likes to torture its used.

BSD projects regard all GPL versions as equally unwanted, as their proprietary masters can't take such software, make it proprietary and use it against them.

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Pawlicker

16h

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt >BSD projects regard all GPL versions as equally unwanted, as their proprietary masters can't take such software, make it proprietary and use it against them.

Actually no, I know for a fact that FreeBSD and OpenBSD still used GCC 4.2.1.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/GCC-4.2-EOL-FreeBSD
https://www.cambus.net/the-state-of-toolchains-in-openbsd/

NetBSD doesn't care. They use newer GCC.

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Phantasm

@sendpaws @HatkeshiatorTND @Suiseiseki

16h

They use newer GCC

They still use GeePeeLv2 GCC for the system. There is a build.sh option to build everything with LLVM though.

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GNU/翠星石

16h

@phnt @HatkeshiatorTND @sendpaws LLVM is not self-hosting - if you want to build LLVM, there's either the option of mystery meat binaries or GCC.

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Phantasm

@menherahair@eientei.org remote

16h

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @sendpaws You don't know what self hosting compiler means.

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menherahair

16h

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt @sendpaws unlike the glorious gcc with options of mystery meat binaries or nothing?

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GNU/翠星石

16h

@menherahair @HatkeshiatorTND @phnt @sendpaws Glorious full source bootstrap GCC; https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2023/the-full-source-bootstrap-building-from-source-all-the-way-down/

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Phantasm

16h

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @menherahair @sendpaws You only need a compiler from 20 years ago. Amazing win.

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Phantasm